Donald Trump

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by _______

Forgiving the debt the campaign owes him would be a great first step.

You have zero interest in seeing Trump win and you are offering him advice on what he should do?
Absolutely no one cares if the campaign owes him. No one.
If Trump's team is not getting sponsors, it is for other reasons.

[whodoyoulike]

Originally Posted by _______

... He keeps threatening to self fund. Forgiving the debt the campaign owes him would be a great first step.

That is sort of my point also, why not just fund (donate) it himself. I understand political contribution limits and their reasons for having them but, It's my understanding any candidate can spend any amount of their own money on their campaigns.

And, why as you say he has to threaten to self fund?

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by Tom

Great speech today by Trump.
Going to start getting interesting.

Meanwhile, Hillary has not had a press conference in over 200 days.
What is she hiding.....besides everything!

If the FBI offers Bryan Pagliano immunity after taking the fifth amendment 125 times today. Who here does not believe that "Hillary Clinton who, as most people know, is a world class liar"?

[whodoyoulike]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

You have zero interest in seeing Trump win and you are offering him advice on what he should do?
Absolutely no one cares if the campaign owes him. No one.
If Trump's team is not getting sponsors, it is for other reasons.

I do!

If he's able to deduct his bad campaign loans from his future income then the Taxpayers have partially and essentially funded this campaign. I'll admit that sounds like a terrible business strategy to intentionally make a loan for a default so one can then deduct it on their taxes. But, if he (or other politicians) will indeed be allowed a deduction then it's a good idea only in politics. If the ability to do this is true, then it sounds like a tax loop hole which should be closed but, I can just imagine how much the likes of Adelson, Kock etc., would be contributing in future political races in their attempt to manipulate people.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by whodoyoulike

I do!

If he's able to deduct his bad campaign loans from his future income then the Taxpayers have partially and essentially funded this campaign. I'll admit that sounds like a terrible business strategy to intentionally make a loan for a default so one can then deduct it on their taxes. But, if he (or other politicians) will indeed be allowed a deduction then it's a good idea only in politics. If the ability to do this is true, then it sounds like a tax loop hole which should be closed but, I can just imagine how much the likes of Adelson, Kock etc., would be contributing in future political races in their attempt to manipulate people.

Any tax loop hole that Trump takes advantage of is not his fault. He had no part in writing it.
That cannot be said for career politicians such as Hillary, Ryan etc etc.

[_______]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

You have zero interest in seeing Trump win and you are offering him advice on what he should do?
Absolutely no one cares if the campaign owes him. No one.
If Trump's team is not getting sponsors, it is for other reasons.

I have zero interest in seeing Trump drag every down ballot Republican into the pit of despair he seems intent on building himself. I'd like to see him run a marginally competent campaign so the losses are limited.

Small donors might not care how their money is used. But I guarantee the big donors who have contributed to Republican campaigns for years have no interest in paying back money that Donald owes himself. They want to see their money spend on building up a ground game in battleground states and getting some ads on the air.

If Trump doesn't want their money, I'm sure they'll find a way to get it to deserving down ballot candidates.

[whodoyoulike]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

Any tax loop hole that Trump takes advantage of is not his fault. He had no part in writing it.
That cannot be said for career politicians such as Hillary, Ryan etc etc.

The thing is that why didn't he just donate instead of loan the money which is what your previous post was addressing that nobody cared how much he would be owed by his campaign.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by whodoyoulike

The thing is that why didn't he just donate instead of loan the money which is what your previous post was addressing that nobody cared how much he would be owed by his campaign.

The thing is he's playing by the rules and you don't seem to be able to play in his league as you don't know them.
He may have a lot of flaws, but he's a smart man.

[fast4522]

Anyone playing with Romney rules are guaranteed not to win, chokers need not apply.

[bks]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

You have zero interest in seeing Trump win and you are offering him advice on what he should do?
Absolutely no one cares if the campaign owes him. No one.
If Trump's team is not getting sponsors, it is for other reasons.

You couldn't be more wrong. This fact, perhaps more than any other, accounts for Trump's inability to get Republican bigwigs to donate to his campaign. They're not interested in becoming suckers. Trump can take any donations that come into his campaign and stick the money directly in his pocket, up to the amount he's already loaned the campaign. NO BIG DONOR is interested in that happening to their money.

Here's a republican corporate lawyer's pithy, yet devastating assessment of Trump's game. He's nailed him dead to rights, and there's utterly no denying that this is precisely how Trump operates in his development life. Same thing pretty much is happening with his presidential campaign. (Note that shortly after this was written, Trump sent out his first email asking for contributions, and promising to match them up to $2M - a paltry sum for someone who allegedly has so much money).

https://storify.com/alkali19/thomash...n-donald-trump

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by bks

You couldn't be more wrong.

There's much more to it than that.
The Cleveland GOP organizers aren't getting the funding that they want for that weekend either.
Trump doesn't get a nickel of that fund.
Look deeper.

[Jess Hawsen Arown]

The Republican establishment wants Trump to lose as much as the Democratic establishment does. It will be a death blow for both criminal organizations when someone who cannot be bought out by special interests becomes President.

Question: Will folks living in a 3-mile radius of the White House be notified of the presence of a sexual predator in their neighborhood if Bill Clinton moves back in?

[Tom]

3 mile radius.....

Jess, welcome!

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by bks

You couldn't be more wrong. This fact, perhaps more than any other, accounts for Trump's inability to get Republican bigwigs to donate to his campaign. They're not interested in becoming suckers. Trump can take any donations that come into his campaign and stick the money directly in his pocket, up to the amount he's already loaned the campaign. NO BIG DONOR is interested in that happening to their money.

Here's a republican corporate lawyer's pithy, yet devastating assessment of Trump's game. He's nailed him dead to rights, and there's utterly no denying that this is precisely how Trump operates in his development life. Same thing pretty much is happening with his presidential campaign. (Note that shortly after this was written, Trump sent out his first email asking for contributions, and promising to match them up to $2M - a paltry sum for someone who allegedly has so much money).

https://storify.com/alkali19/thomash...n-donald-trump

Who exactly is being quoted? Everyone's an author and expert in the days of the internet.

You're getting yourself in a knot over nothing. It's smart to report the money as loans. If somewhere down the line I'm able to get the money back, I'd sure want to. Once you report it as a donation, it's gone forever.

If they need to convince big money donors that the money will go to future expenditures, then I'm sure they will.

Remember that Trump isn't going to MAKE money from his loans, so even if he got it all back, so what? What big con did he pull on anyone? He would've made more money running his businesses and not wasted his time for a net zero gain (or a little bit of interest).

[_______]

So If Trump just forgave his campaign debt on the day after I said it was the obvious thing he had to do, would anyone on this website admit they were wrong?

Just asking.