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12-16-2017, 03:24 PM
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are they nuts at Los Al
in todays first race with 7 horses and no stickout they don't take show wagers, in the second race with only 5 entrants and a stickout they are taking show!
this is part of the reason why this game is in trouble, the people that run it have zero clue what they are doing.
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12-16-2017, 03:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboguy
in todays first race with 7 horses and no stickout they don't take show wagers, in the second race with only 5 entrants and a stickout they are taking show!
this is part of the reason why this game is in trouble, the people that run it have zero clue what they are doing.
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No show wagering on maiden 20k horses at Los Al is not part of the reason why the game is in trouble.
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12-16-2017, 03:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboguy
in todays first race with 7 horses and no stickout they don't take show wagers, in the second race with only 5 entrants and a stickout they are taking show!
this is part of the reason why this game is in trouble, the people that run it have zero clue what they are doing.
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I do not know what is stranger, no show wagering or that they had a 7 horse field.
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12-16-2017, 03:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ronsmac
No show wagering on maiden 20k horses at Los Al is not part of the reason why the game is in trouble.
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i am basically talking about the decision makers that are running the game.
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12-16-2017, 05:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ronsmac
No show wagering on maiden 20k horses at Los Al is not part of the reason why the game is in trouble.
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But it’s damn sure illustrative
What a mess
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12-16-2017, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
But it’s damn sure illustrative
What a mess
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I agree it may not be ideal, but it's about number 178 on racing's problems.
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12-16-2017, 07:46 PM
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Was a reason given?
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12-16-2017, 08:16 PM
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they should be taking show betting on every race, but instead of paying the minimum breakage, they should be paying the penny. but no, because they want to steal as much breakage from the players they will not change.
lets not forget that the breakage doesn't count towards the purses or the takeout, and therefore not only does the horsemen not get any of that money, but the state gets nothing as well. but one thing for sure, the player pays for the breakage.
and i don't know how to rate the breakage problem, but its somewhere in the top ten or fifteen.
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12-17-2017, 04:08 AM
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Off topic. I've been watching replays this evening, and I feel like the race caller there is as good as any I hear from other tracks. Los Al is nuts, but they certainly did one thing right with the race caller they employed.
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12-17-2017, 07:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboguy
they should be taking show betting on every race, but instead of paying the minimum breakage, they should be paying the penny. but no, because they want to steal as much breakage from the players they will not change.
lets not forget that the breakage doesn't count towards the purses or the takeout, and therefore not only does the horsemen not get any of that money, but the state gets nothing as well. but one thing for sure, the player pays for the breakage.
and i don't know how to rate the breakage problem, but its somewhere in the top ten or fifteen.
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Ok. Let them pay to the penny, period. No minimum payouts. Deal?
Last edited by Fager Fan; 12-17-2017 at 08:01 AM.
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12-17-2017, 09:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fager Fan
Ok. Let them pay to the penny, period. No minimum payouts. Deal?
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its fine with me as long as they get rid of breakage that they pocket on everything else.
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12-17-2017, 11:18 AM
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The breakage is the biggest theft I’ve ever seen. And it amazes me that the players allow it to continue.
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12-17-2017, 11:20 AM
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I’d join a boycott for as long as it took to get paid off to the penny. But there are to many degenerates that couldn’t last a day or a week to get the breakage rule changed. Sign me up
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12-17-2017, 12:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whisperlunch
I’d join a boycott for as long as it took to get paid off to the penny. But there are to many degenerates that couldn’t last a day or a week to get the breakage rule changed. Sign me up
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The breakage issue which has gone on for 60 or more years has always been a crime and should be reduced to the penny on the dollar which would still be miniscule breakage because I know there won't be rounding up or down , just up . With that said, the takeout increases on exotic wagers has amounted to tens of millions more than breakage ever did. Especially in this day and age where exotics make up a much higher % of wagers than high breakage bets. WPS.
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12-17-2017, 01:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ronsmac
The breakage issue which has gone on for 60 or more years has always been a crime and should be reduced to the penny on the dollar which would still be miniscule breakage because I know there won't be rounding up or down , just up . With that said, the takeout increases on exotic wagers has amounted to tens of millions more than breakage ever did. Especially in this day and age where exotics make up a much higher % of wagers than high breakage bets. WPS.
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makes little difference, they have higher calculations for breakage in exotics too. they have it all figured out these days.
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