Religion III

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

"God's curse upon this evil world won't be lifted until Christ returns"...is your argument. And you can't see why people remain unconvinced? What if Christ NEVER returns? Lengthy absences create doubts, Boxcar...

Oh...unregenerate people will remain unconvinced for any number of excuses. But God's people have tasted and experienced his faithfulness and love , so we eagerly await the return of our Lord; for we know he will make good on that promise, as well, since he has made good on so many others in our personal lives.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Oh...is that what you think you did: Rephrase a supposed "philosophical conundrum"? This "conundrum" is a product of your own carnal imagination. Evil exists because Good exists; and Jesus taught that only God alone is Good. It's impossible for Evil to exist apart from God, since evil is not a thing per se, but a deprivation of a thing, i.e. Good. (Just like darkness is the absence of light!)

And again, what part of "wages of sin is death", don't you get? Is there a place where no "poor African child is dying as a result of an insect burrowing into her eye"? Yes, there is. But not here on this planet -- not in this age. If YOU want to attain to the next age of Paradise Restored, I told you what you must do. The choice is freely yours. If not, please tell us how you just hate having the capacity to freely choose to hate God.

Whenever someone brings up some unthinkable cruelty that has befallen some unfortunate child...you keep saying that the "wages of sin is death". If the "wages of sin is death"...why are you and I still alive?

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Oh...unregenerate people will remain unconvinced for any number of excuses. But God's people have tasted and experienced his faithfulness and love , so we eagerly await the return of our Lord; for we know he will make good on that promise, as well, since he has made good on so many others in our personal lives.

I wonder if you talk as you write.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Whenever someone brings up some unthinkable cruelty that has befallen some unfortunate child...you keep saying that the "wages of sin is death". If the "wages of sin is death"...why are you and I still alive?

Why is anyone still alive? God's grace, perhaps? The person who lives to be a 100 (which is less than nothing compared to eternity) is alive by God's grace. And the one who dies after living for a very short period of time dies by God's grace, for God is not willing that any children should perish eternally.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

I wonder if you talk as you write.

And I wonder at the spiritual truth that says the unregenerate cannot understand any of the spiritual truth I write.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by boxcar

And I wonder at the spiritual truth that says the unregenerate cannot understand any of the spiritual truth I write.

People disagree, Boxcar. They disagree at the track, in politics, in their forms of entertainment...and in their religious beliefs. One size doesn't fit all.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Oh...is that what you think you did: Rephrase a supposed "philosophical conundrum"? This "conundrum" is a product of your own carnal imagination. Evil exists because Good exists; and Jesus taught that only God alone is Good. It's impossible for Evil to exist apart from God, since evil is not a thing per se, but a deprivation of a thing, i.e. Good. (Just like darkness is the absence of light!)

And again, what part of "wages of sin is death", don't you get? Is there a place where no "poor African child is dying as a result of an insect burrowing into her eye"? Yes, there is. But not here on this planet -- not in this age. If YOU want to attain to the next age of Paradise Restored, I told you what you must do. The choice is freely yours. If not, please tell us how you just hate having the capacity to freely choose to hate God.

So, the little girl with an insect eating her eye from the inside out, has "sinned" enough to earn an early agonizing death?

So oh great wise one, you want us to believe she freely chose this fate?

What part of exactly, how idiotic, heartless, hateful, and inhuman of an evil bastard of a god,..... you are making out your Yahweh to be???

Did I say pompous Ass? Slight modification.......
Asinine unfeeling pompous Ass

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

So, the little girl with an insect eating her eye from the inside out, has "sinned" enough to earn an early agonizing death?

So oh great wise one, you want us to believe she freely chose this fate?

What part of exactly, how idiotic, heartless, hateful, and inhuman of an evil bastard of a god,..... you are making out your Yahweh to be???

Did I say pompous Ass? Slight modification.......
Asinine unfeeling pompous Ass

Your problem is that you refuse to believe that all human beings are sinners by nature. Here are three scenarios for this "little girl with an insect eating her eye from the inside out":

A. The little girl dies a young age before reaching the age of accountability (knowing good and evil), and because of Christ's atoning on the Cross, she goes to heaven to be with Jesus forever, since God is not willing that any of his "little ones" perish eternally.

B. The little girl lives long enough to reach the age of accountability, and hears the gospel, repents of her sins and believes on Jesus, so that when she dies she will also go to be with Him -- again due to his sacrificial, atoning work on the Cross on her behalf.

C. The little girl lives long enough to reach the age of accountability and never repents of her sins and comes to faith in Christ, in which case when she dies she will stand condemned before God for all eternity.

What this girl's ultimate spiritual destiny is is entirely in God's sovereign hands, as He will have mercy on whom He will have mercy, and have compassion on whom He will have compassion (Rom 9:15). If he doesn't show mercy to her, He will be just since He is not morally obligated to save anyone, and will judge her according to her sins. But if He does have mercy on her and save her, He is also just because He determined before the foundation of the world that His beloved Firstborn Son Jesus Christ would be her personal sin bearer, thereby paying her sin debt.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Your problem is that you refuse to believe that all human beings are sinners by nature. Here are three scenarios for this "little girl with an insect eating her eye from the inside out":

A. The little girl dies a young age before reaching the age of accountability (knowing good and evil), and because of Christ's atoning on the Cross, she goes to heaven to be with Jesus forever, since God is not willing that any of his "little ones" perish eternally.

B. The little girl lives long enough to reach the age of accountability, and hears the gospel, repents of her sins and believes on Jesus, so that when she dies she will also go to be with Him -- again due to his sacrificial, atoning work on the Cross on her behalf.

C. The little girl lives long enough to reach the age of accountability and never repents of her sins and comes to faith in Christ, in which case when she dies she will stand condemned before God for all eternity.

What this girl's ultimate spiritual destiny is is entirely in God's sovereign hands, as He will have mercy on whom He will have mercy, and have compassion on whom He will have compassion (Rom 9:15). If he doesn't show mercy to her, He will be just since He is not morally obligated to save anyone, and will judge her according to her sins. But if He does have mercy on her and save her, He is also just because He determined before the foundation of the world that His beloved Firstborn Son Jesus Christ would be her personal sin bearer, thereby paying her sin debt.

You are one sick puppy.

Btw, what is the so-called "age of accountability"? And could that in any way be related to your "age of senility"? Earlier I suggested Randall find you and him, a good deprogrammer. Did not emphasize to him your extreme cult-like views. Give him a shout.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Your problem is that you refuse to believe that all human beings are sinners by nature. Here are three scenarios for this "little girl with an insect eating her eye from the inside out":

A. The little girl dies a young age before reaching the age of accountability (knowing good and evil), and because of Christ's atoning on the Cross, she goes to heaven to be with Jesus forever, since God is not willing that any of his "little ones" perish eternally.

B. The little girl lives long enough to reach the age of accountability, and hears the gospel, repents of her sins and believes on Jesus, so that when she dies she will also go to be with Him -- again due to his sacrificial, atoning work on the Cross on her behalf.

C. The little girl lives long enough to reach the age of accountability and never repents of her sins and comes to faith in Christ, in which case when she dies she will stand condemned before God for all eternity.

What this girl's ultimate spiritual destiny is is entirely in God's sovereign hands, as He will have mercy on whom He will have mercy, and have compassion on whom He will have compassion (Rom 9:15). If he doesn't show mercy to her, He will be just since He is not morally obligated to save anyone, and will judge her according to her sins. But if He does have mercy on her and save her, He is also just because He determined before the foundation of the world that His beloved Firstborn Son Jesus Christ would be her personal sin bearer, thereby paying her sin debt.

IMO...only monsters allow children to suffer unspeakable horrors because somebody somewhere once defiantly ate an apple. And anyone who calls such behavior "holy" should be alienated from the rest of the population...lest his disease be contagious and infect everyone else.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

You are one sick puppy.

Btw, what is the so-called "age of accountability"? And could that in any way be related to your "age of senility"? Earlier I suggested Randall find you and him, a good deprogrammer. Did not emphasize to him your extreme cult-like views. Give him a shout.

I submit to you that you're the sick puppy! You cannot explain how any of the three scenarios I presented is unjust.

Age of accountability would, obviously, vary per individual. And equally as obvious is that since God knows all hearts, he would be able to determine that easily.

https://bible.org/question/what-does...accountability

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

I submit to you that you're the sick puppy! You cannot explain how any of the three scenarios I presented is unjust.

Age of accountability would, obviously, vary per individual. And equally as obvious is that since God knows all hearts, he would be able to determine that easily.

https://bible.org/question/what-does...accountability

Sorry ROVER, I called you puppy first..

After all you called me evil. Remember?

I do not want to follow you down another of your meandering rabbit holes as to what you think are "scenarios" that justify a heartless inhuman deity torturing an innocent child. That absurdity is in front of your nose, and you refuse to see it.

The fact we must EXPLAIN it to you, shows how deeply you have given up your common sense for a twisted monstrous cult.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

Sorry ROVER, I called you puppy first..

After all you called me evil. Remember?

I do not want to follow you down another of your meandering rabbit holes as to what you think are "scenarios" that justify a heartless inhuman deity torturing an innocent child. That absurdity is in front of your nose, and you refuse to see it.

The fact we must EXPLAIN it to you, shows how deeply you have given up your common sense for a twisted monstrous cult.

Yeah, but you're the SICKO! I was very certain that you wouldn't be able to point to any injustice to any of the scenarios and explain why. You're an empty suit that can only flail your arms and complain and whine -- like some spoiled juvenile, sniveling brat. This is an indisputable fact!

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Yeah, but you're the SICKO! I was very certain that you wouldn't be able to point to any injustice to any of the scenarios and explain why. You're an empty suit that can only flail your arms and complain and whine -- like some spoiled juvenile, sniveling brat. This is an indisputable fact!

Excuse me. Sorry, for driving you crazy. But I can't suffer fools forever.

All your absolute nonsense since 2003 is quite enough.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

Excuse me. Sorry, for driving you crazy. But I can't suffer fools forever.

All your absolute nonsense since 2003 is quite enough.

Quit flattering yourself. Someone with the depth of a muddle puddle might drive me crazy...but you have never attained to even that shallow depth.