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02-03-2019, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Actor
Fallacy of equivocation!
My ancestral apes and your ancestral apes are the same apes. You and I are both apes.
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Don't forget Tom.
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02-03-2019, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Actor
Fallacy of equivocation!
My ancestral apes and your ancestral apes are the same apes. You and I are both apes.
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Well, your bud Humpty doesn't think so.
Also, it's only a fallacy if evolution is true. Big IF! But I know that I descend from the [Son] of God ultimately. 
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02-03-2019, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Well, your bud Humpty doesn't think so.
Also, it's only a fallacy if evolution is true. Big IF! But I know that I descend from the [Son] of God ultimately. |
I thought it was your mythical "Adam" who you are descended from?
Btw, I used primate instead of ape. We share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. Who lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. And yes professor Mr. Know-it-all. Evolution is correct and as I have mentioned hundreds of times, you should go back to school. Before you make an even bigger fool of yourself claiming false world truths
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02-03-2019, 01:56 PM
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Smarty Pants
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Speak for yourself monkey.
No offense.
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02-03-2019, 01:59 PM
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Smarty Pants
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Do you descend from God or a monkey?
Sounds like a problem.
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02-03-2019, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckeye
Speak for yourself monkey.
No offense.
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I am also speaking for the modern educated scientific rational world.
No offense.
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02-03-2019, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckeye
Do you descend from God or a monkey?
Sounds like a problem.
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To you maybe.
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02-03-2019, 02:04 PM
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I seem to remember studying world religions too and one thing I learned was science is not one of them!
Your move.
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02-03-2019, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckeye
I seem to remember studying world religions too and one thing I learned was science is not one of them!
Your move.
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Really. Tell me about Zen or Judaism.
BTW, it doesn't hurt to know Einstein or Charles Darwin along with world religions.
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02-03-2019, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Also, it's only a fallacy if evolution is true.
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The fallacy is in your use of the word depth.
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02-03-2019, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckeye
Do you descend from God or a monkey?
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Neither.
Humans and apes descended from a common ancestor. All primates descended from an earlier common ancestor. We are cousins to monkeys. We did not descend from them.
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02-03-2019, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Rather you and boxcars' absolute certainty in your belief system and disparaging remarks about science and other belief systems.
A.K.A. other religions.
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I'm supposed to plant the flag of any belief system but my own atop the apex.
I don't make disparaging remarks about science, which I marvel at and which informs my life of faith, as faith informs my reason. I, like many others (including atheists Massimo Pigliucci, Julian Baggini, et.al.), disparage the philosophy of scientism that produces, according to Merriam-Webster, "an exaggerated trust in the efficacy of the methods of natural science applied to all areas of investigation (as in philosophy, the social sciences, and the humanities)."
A philosophy of "when you've answered the questions from a scientific perspective, you've answered all that can be asked", cannot even survive it's own testing by the scientific method.
I don't recall disparaging other religions or belief systems unless, with regard to you and me, my championing the embrace of suffering (sacrificial love) automatically "disparages" the philosophies which seek to eliminate suffering. I've stated that in my circle of references, many individuals gush over Eastern Mysticism while maintaining their Christianity.
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02-03-2019, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Eastern mysticism is no different in essence than western mysticism, a major axis of Abrahamic religions rarely spoken about here.
Words, loose something, particularly when we attempt to codify much larger concepts of spirituality. As far as I can tell there are only a few of us displaying the "practical" aspects of mysticism on this thread. Versus many others who claim and display their egoistic religious certitude. Grasping the preamble to the " I do not know of mysticism" is not that far removed from the scientist and agnostic testing ideas.
Mechanisms of the search for what is however are different.
When I bring up Buddhist suchness or thusness, as an eastern term for reality, it is not that remote from paying attention to the world around us. And not spinning endless spiritual cartwheels building complicated intellectually stilted Towers of Babel.
'practical"
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You altered my statement containing the phrase, "practical scientism", making the rest irrelevant.
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02-03-2019, 03:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
I thought it was your mythical "Adam" who you are descended from?
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I'll let you figure out these two texts: Lk 3:38 and Acts 17:28,29
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Btw, I used primate instead of ape. We share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. Who lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. And yes professor Mr. Know-it-all. Evolution is correct and as I have mentioned hundreds of times, you should go back to school. Before you make an even bigger fool of yourself claiming false world truths
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That's nice. Go hug a monkey, chimp or ape and be sure to tell the furry critter that it is smarter than you are.
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02-03-2019, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Actor
Neither.
Humans and apes descended from a common ancestor. All primates descended from an earlier common ancestor. We are cousins to monkeys. We did not descend from them.
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Are your warm and hairy cousins the kissin' kind?
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