Canada-Style "Health Care"

[azeri98]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

I don’t believe a damn thing the CDC says.

I am also skeptical of the women

NIH?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8765248/
Who do you believe?

[azeri98]

Originally Posted by ElKabong

No bone to pick here, but no law to take away firearms would lessen the murder count here. Might even increase it. Spend some time in the worst parts of the 50 largest cities here and we'd come to find common ground here

Murder rates skyrocketed when drug use became more prevalent. I'd like to see that taken on first. That would be a compassionate action

Jmo

So how do you explain the extremely low murder rates in countries that have very strict gun laws? Among peer countries you guys are by far the worst. Are Americans just that much more violent? I don't think so. I've spent a lot of time in your country and met a lot of nice people. It's about such east access to weapons that kill very easily.
https://www.healthdata.org/acting-da...states-outlier

[azeri98]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Don't you just love backwards liberal logic? Our clueless friend from Canada thinks the murder rate will drop if we take all the guns away from the good guys, leaving all the bad guys with them instead plus all the ammo they need. Simple-minded libs think criminals will become law-abiding citizens in a gunless society and give up all their weapons too.

Your logic is backward . In every other civilized country with strict gun laws the murder rate is much lower. Why Is that? Can you explain it?
https://www.healthdata.org/acting-da...states-outlier

[azeri98]

Originally Posted by davew

Finally, the Two-Spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, queer and intersex people will be more protected in Canada. Even though Tucker Carlson reported tonight that near 20% of Canadians are hungry due to inflation and many emergency rooms are closing, money was found to protect the neglected 2% of Canadians in the 2SLGBTQI+ community.

Anyone here identify as Two-Spirit?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cAN2KOYy_Q

Actually it's not 20%. It's about the same as you guys in terms of percentage, 4.4 million vs 38 million. The amount of people living in poverty is also about the same. So if we are that bad what does that say about the U.S?

[ElKabong]

Originally Posted by azeri98

So how do you explain the extremely low murder rates in countries that have very strict gun laws? Among peer countries you guys are by far the worst. Are Americans just that much more violent? I don't think so. I've spent a lot of time in your country and met a lot of nice people. It's about such east access to weapons that kill very easily.
https://www.healthdata.org/acting-da...states-outlier

As I said, visit the inner city of the 50 most populous metro areas here. To compare us to Norway, Austria, even Canada is useless. There's a more harsh word for it but we're being civil here

Drugs is destroying this country, I've seen it going on for 6 decades plus. That type of crime drives violence, including murders

BTW, I don't own a firearm. But I am very sure firearms aren't the problem. End the drug problem, violence decreases greatly

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by azeri98

Your logic is backward . In every other civilized country with strict gun laws the murder rate is much lower. Why Is that? Can you explain it?
https://www.healthdata.org/acting-da...states-outlier

No, it's your logic that is backwards. You actually believe that by abolishing an amoral, inanimate object like a firearm -- an object that has no volition -- is actually going to reduce homicides!? Here's a clue for you: Guns don't kill; people kill. So...if you want to reduce the number of homicides, we need to lock up the killers who shoot people.

Secondly, abolishing guns will only remove guns from law-abiding citizens. Criminals, by definition, are law-breakers. They don't give two flips about the law. They think they are a law unto themselves.

Lastly, here are some real gun stats on Red and Blue states:

https://www.netadvisor.org/2015/11/0...an-red-states/

[Inner Dirt]

We need to send all out gang members to Canada and see what happens to their murder rate.

[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by azeri98

Not sure about the percentage but here is a study and don't forget these are only the reported ones. Many women are ashamed to report
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8765248/

It's not a small number, maybe to you but to most folks I don't think it would be.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...hs-in-the-u-s/
As far as guns go you had over 45,000 gun related deaths last year, also not a small number.

As a man of god one of your primary goals would be the preservation of life. I've seen that in your stance on abortion and assisted dying. What about guns? Would you ban guns to preserve life?

Do you honestly think Murderers won't kill if they don't specifically have a Gun to do it???

This is a dead issue...at least in America. Our "Government" has spouted Gun Control for way too long that does NOT address the issue of getting said Guns out of the hands of Criminals. For this reason...nobody is giving up their Guns.

Sorry this rains on your Parade, Liberals. Not.

[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

We need to send all out gang members to Canada and see what happens to their murder rate.

Soon enough. The Gangs are amassing real power in a hurry. Anybody who thinks a Border matters a Shit to them is Insane. We are living it as we speak.

Inner Dirt

[xtb]

Originally Posted by azeri98

So how do you explain the extremely low murder rates in countries that have very strict gun laws? Among peer countries you guys are by far the worst. Are Americans just that much more violent? I don't think so. I've spent a lot of time in your country and met a lot of nice people. It's about such east access to weapons that kill very easily.
https://www.healthdata.org/acting-da...states-outlier

Or maybe it's really not the guns.

According to its mayor, Miami saw a 12% increase in revenue year-over-year from January, "which is the second-most in recorded history," and record-low 1.4% unemployment.
The city is also preparing to end this year with the lowest homicide rate Miami's seen since 1930, making it "one of the safest big cities in America," Suarez argued.
"Miami was voted the happiest city in America and the healthiest city in America. So it turns out if people are healthy, if people are happy, if they're paying low taxes, if they're working, they're not going to be committing homicide," Suarez said. "So it's a very easy recipe for success. It can be scaled to the rest of the country, but it takes political courage."

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...american-dream

[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by xtb

Or maybe it's really not the guns.



https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...american-dream

xtb...facts like these are not what the Left wants to hear. These facts go against what they are trying to accomplish...and they are some angry folks these days.

Of course, reasonable people like hearing this...so...thanks.

[xtb]

Originally Posted by azeri98

So how do you explain the extremely low murder rates in countries that have very strict gun laws? Among peer countries you guys are by far the worst. Are Americans just that much more violent? I don't think so. I've spent a lot of time in your country and met a lot of nice people. It's about such east access to weapons that kill very easily.
https://www.healthdata.org/acting-da...states-outlier

I would explain the extremely low murder rates in these countries compared to the US by the fact that these countries do not contain certain cultures in significant numbers that exist in the US. One example.


2018

All but one of the murder victims in St. Louis last year were Black, and everybody accused of those murders were also Black. Those were the statistics that prompted one of the city’s top law enforcement officials to make a personal plea to his fellow African-Americans: Stop it now.

https://newsone.com/3769526/black-mu...me-statistics/


The police chief and Public Safety Director (a former judge) are black btw.

[TJDave]

Why are you people ragging on Canadian health care?

Canadians I talk to seem to like it so why should you care?

[ElKabong]

Originally Posted by TJDave

Why are you people ragging on Canadian health care?

Canadians I talk to seem to like it so why should you care?

My wife and her ex owned multiple RV parks in the Valley (TX) prior to my meeting her. Snowbirds from Canada would tell her quite the opposite. They preferred the crappy (in comparison to dallas) heathcare system in Harlingen to their healthcare system at home

They were happy to pay the extra $ to get better treatment. Most were from Ontario and Manitoba

[azeri98]

Originally Posted by ElKabong

As I said, visit the inner city of the 50 most populous metro areas here. To compare us to Norway, Austria, even Canada is useless. There's a more harsh word for it but we're being civil here

Drugs is destroying this country, I've seen it going on for 6 decades plus. That type of crime drives violence, including murders

BTW, I don't own a firearm. But I am very sure firearms aren't the problem. End the drug problem, violence decreases greatly

So drugs are only a problem in your country? Got it