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Old 09-16-2022, 08:52 PM   #1591
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Race 5 Betting 2 horses in here again to win. #2 and #6
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Old 09-16-2022, 08:59 PM   #1592
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Race 5 Betting 2 horses in here again to win. #2 and #6

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Old 09-16-2022, 10:05 PM   #1593
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Q Did you find the explanation for the shortfall?

A I do not have enough info on how the tote system works to comment on your question. The only plausible reason could be that the commingled money bet on the host track (Mohawk in this instance) by US patrons somehow takes longer than usual to show up in the host track's tote system.

Q In the US, some states take a percentage of winning wagers.

A That I believe is done only at the OTBs in the US as far as I know.

Q Never underestimate government greed.

A I do not believe that the Government nor the host track is responsible for the odds fluctuations. The host track and the Govt. takes their cut from every pool and that is the extent of their involvement.

In a another thread on the subject there was some inference that somehow there was some cheating going on and that some preferred patrons were somehow able to bet after the races have already started. I do not believe that to be the case.

Please read this guide on how the common pool wagering in US works.

https://www.forterieracing.com/us-common-pool-wagering
Illinois takes 10% of winning bets. 10% of the amount won not wagered. I used to reside in IL so I know.

You were paid out correctly based on the closing numbers? You saw the 6/1 shortly before the final flash?
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Old 09-16-2022, 10:38 PM   #1594
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Race 9 #4 Western Wish w/p
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Old 09-16-2022, 10:46 PM   #1595
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Race 9 #4 Western Wish w/p

Western Wish finished 2nd paid 3.50 to place.
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Old 09-16-2022, 11:01 PM   #1596
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Race 10 #2 Twin B Tipster w/p
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Old 09-16-2022, 11:08 PM   #1597
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Twin B Tipster finished 3rd.
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Old 09-16-2022, 11:21 PM   #1598
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Race 11 Betting 2 horses in here to win. #1 and #8
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Old 09-16-2022, 11:35 PM   #1599
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Old 09-17-2022, 08:26 PM   #1600
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Race 4 #7 Huntinthelastdolar w/p
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Old 09-17-2022, 08:34 PM   #1601
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Old 09-19-2022, 08:44 PM   #1602
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Race 8 Betting 2 horses here to win. #4 and #8


Race 9 #7 Saylor W/p
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Old 09-20-2022, 09:14 AM   #1603
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Race 8 Betting 2 horses here to win. #4 and #8


Race 9 #7 Saylor W/p
Race 8 Betting 2 horses here to win. #4 and #8 #8 Capitano Italiano won paid 11.20 My other horse in the race #4 Sun Chip suffered broken equipment before the race and money bet on him was refunded.


Race 9 #7 Saylor W/p Saylor was out.

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Old 09-20-2022, 03:08 PM   #1604
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Race 1 #2 Five Fish Species w/p/s DD 2/3

Race 2 #3 Talk Racy To Me w/p
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Old 09-20-2022, 07:47 PM   #1605
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Race 2 #3 Talk Racy To Me w/p

Race 1 #2 Five Fish Species w/p/s DD 2/3 OUT

Race 2 #3 Talk Racy To Me w/p Went off at 11-1 and won. paid 25.20-11.20
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