Can SS win the Preakness?

[BigJake]

Is SS good enough to win the next one. I went on record at the derby party I was at, and said no way. There is no way he will get the same type of trip
What do y'all think. Is this not going to be one of the best betting opportunities in the Preakness? Maybe I was a little tipsy and saw it wrong.

BigJake

[garyoz]

Pimlico is not kind to closers, especially those susceptible to a bounce. He will be an underlay for sure.

[OTM Al]

Best horses generally win the big races. The best horses that look to be in this race all went in the Derby. Therefore you must expect "bounces" from each of them if you think SS can bounce because Hard Spun and Curlin both had quite a bit of work they had to do. Curlin I would expect to be most likely to beat him because all the new faces aren't in the league of the top 3 and Hard Spun may well get caught up in a way too fast pace. Curlin doesn't run back in this one, then would almost say SS an overlay at any price. This is why I said earlier they should just let SS have this one and come back fresh for the Belmont, but I do understand why Hard Spun's connection want to go at Pimlico being their home ground.

[joeyreb]

depends if the other jockeys are dumb enough to give Borel & SS another dream trip down the rail??

[DrugSalvastore]

I wish I had some real clever longshot in this race---but I fully expect the three favorites to make up the trifecta.

I'm putting Street Sense underneath both HS and Curlin in all exotics. SS has had more perfect trip wins than a horse with his style typically gets away with over the course of an entire career. He can win---but, he will be by far the biggest underlay of the three contenders/chalks.

[the_fat_man]

Oh NO

Not the DREADED BOUNCE!!!!!

[DrugSalvastore]

Who said anything about a bounce?

Street Sense didn't run any better in the Derby than he did in the two other outings where he got a pace setup/dream rail run.

I know you pride yourself on watching replays TFM---do me a favor and go back and watch all of Street Sense's races when he tries circle horses. Note, the bad habits he displays...and note how much less of a world beater he appears.

[BeatTheChalk]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Oh NO

Not the DREADED BOUNCE!!!!!

Oh nothing really ..I just wanted to see the guy banging his head into
the wall .. again

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by DrugSalvastore

Who said anything about a bounce?

Street Sense didn't run any better in the Derby than he did in the two other outings where he got a pace setup/dream rail run.

I know you pride yourself on watching replays TFM---do me a favor and go back and watch all of Street Sense's races when he tries circle horses. Note, the bad habits he displays...and note how much less of a world beater he appears.

DrugS

as usual you state the obvious

my comments are meant to mock the use of a (senseless) catch phrase
that's now firmly entrenched within the vocabulary of all horseplayers

I don't need to watch to SS's races. I already know and have commented on the fact that he's a one run horse that needs everything his own way to win. In the Tampa Bay race, he gets the garden inside trip and HANGS. In the Lane's End, at Keeneland, where he actually had to put in a wide move (albeit premature) he fizzled out, like any other horse would. To his credit he's a super athletic horse and has the services of a smart, risk-taking jock. But he's NOT gonna give you a sustained run. (Not against top quality horses, anyway.) He needs HELP to win.

What's shocking to me is all the in-the-know types coming out of the woodwork and lauding him as a super horse. He's not getting the Moses trip in the Preakness or Belmont.

Let's face it, relatively equal trip and he and Curlin turn for home together: CURLIN BURIES HIM!!!

[bellsbendboy]

Street Sense was super horse well before the Derby and those around the horse knew it! Good cappers can read between the past performances, most of SS's detractors apparently do not posess that skill. He will WIN the Preakness by open lengths. BBB

[Overlay]

Originally Posted by bellsbendboy

Street Sense was super horse well before the Derby and those around the horse knew it! Good cappers can read between the past performances, most of SS's detractors apparently do not posess that skill. He will WIN the Preakness by open lengths. BBB

BBB:

When talking about the Preakness, shouldn't you sign off as "Bee Bee Bee", instead?

[Gibbon]

Thorograph sheets post derby figs:
http://www.thorograph.com/phorum/rea...5053#msg-35053
click on the PDF file. deep links are forbidden at this website.



DRF PP's post derby figs and Preakness probables;
http://drf.com/tc/preakness/2007/pps/contenders_pps.pdf


Ragozin sheets post derby figs:
http://www.thesheets.com/derby07.html


Beyer and Thorograph has the derby final time as fast. SS ran back to his BC fig.

Rags has the derby as SLOW.

If any one horse looks like a bounce as defined by the sheets - Hard Spun fits this definition!!

[Hajck Hillstrom]

Originally Posted by BigJake

Is SS good enough to win the next one. I went on record at the derby party I was at, and said no way. There is no way he will get the same type of trip.

I don't think Street Sense will move forward, and am a big supporter of Chelokee.

Carry on, Carry on,

Hajck Hillstrom

[Overlay]

Just as an update, a post in the "More Rare than the Triple Crown" thread over on the Triple Crown Trail board indicates that Chelokee will not be running in the Preakness. (Possibly aiming for the Barbaro instead.)

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=36454

[pressman]

NO
NOT HArd Spun
NOT Curlin

Look out for Xchanger