Is Tom Brady overrated?

[proximity]

no coffee for tom terrific.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...0c8beacf7fac7?

possible sru soulmate in the comments?

Susan Hottinger · UW-Whitewater
Would Tom Brady be as awesome if he couldn't just sit protected back in the pocket? I don't think so.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by proximity

no coffee for tom terrific.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...0c8beacf7fac7?

possible sru soulmate in the comments?

Susan Hottinger · UW-Whitewater
Would Tom Brady be as awesome if he couldn't just sit protected back in the pocket? I don't think so.

You gotta admit it's a lot easier playing QB while on your feet vs on your back.

Of course, probably a coincidence that 'the best ever' was also the guy who got hit and hurried the least.

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

This is 100 pct true, Belichick will take a smaller and or slower player over a more physically gifted one knowing that the smarter player can overcome that by being football smart. A guy like Tedi Bruschi was no where near the biggest guy, but he was one step ahead in intelligence, same for guys like Welker, Amendoala, wood head and of course Brady who's probably the smartest of them all.

Everyone should have a basketball TE (or in the Pat's case a WWF superstars TE)
and everyone should have a Welker/Amendola/Woodhead WR.

Those types of wide receivers not only fit a role (over the middle, agility routes) - they also build a rapport and a chemistry type of relationship with your typical QB.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

Everyone should have a basketball TE (or in the Pat's case a WWF superstars TE)
and everyone should have a Welker/Amendola/Woodhead WR.

Those types of wide receivers not only fit a role (over the middle, agility routes) - they also build a rapport and a chemistry type of relationship with your typical QB.

Woodhead was giving Denver fits in the last game of year for SD.

SD has that basketball player TE and Woodhead, finished 4-12 but these guys were tough to play against because of that.

[jballscalls]

looked back at the beginning of this thread and really Thaskalos ended the discussion in post #2 with the answer to the original question. Entertaining nonetheless

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by jballscalls

looked back at the beginning of this thread and really Thaskalos ended the discussion in post #2 with the answer to the original question. Entertaining nonetheless

Overrated is a perception, which is completely separate from actual talent. You're right, the thread ended in post two which was just more proof that the question 'is he overrated' was emphatically answered. A level headed older gentlemen such as Thaskalos turned into a giggling schoolgirl at the mere mention of Brady's name.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

A level headed older gentlemen such as Thaskalos turned into a giggling schoolgirl at the mere mention of Brady's name.

Hey...who are you calling "older"?

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Hey...who are you calling "older"?

I meant it as a compliment

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

I meant it as a compliment

"Older" is a compliment?

Then I'd rather have you INSULT me.

[cj]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

"Older" is a compliment?

Then I'd rather have you INSULT me.

Agree...wiser or smarter works a lot better.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by cj

Agree...wiser or smarter works a lot better.

Yes...there is no doubt about it. SRU needs to work on his "compliments".

[dartman51]

If you go by STATS, it's pretty much a TOSS UP.

MANNING
Career (1998-2015)
COMP %_______65.3
YARDS________71,940
TD'S__________539
INT___________251
RTG___________96.5
44 4th QTR COMEBACKS
55 GAME WINNING DRIVES

BRADY
Career (2000-2015)
COMP%________63.6
YARDS_________58,028
TD'S___________428
INT____________150
RTG____________96.4
37 4th QTR COMEBACKS
48 GAME WINNING DRIVES

[Chaka26]

Originally Posted by cj

As I've said many times, pure speculation. No way to ever know. He also could have won 8 Super Bowls in Cleveland...we'll never know. Great QBs have been in great organizations before and none have been to six Super Bowls.

Hes no gale gilbert, gale went to the superbowl 5 straight years if thats your barometer. Jim kelly went 4 straight bradshaw won 4 of 5 or 6yrs but his stats suck so do his 4 rings mean more than toms 4 as his come with 2 losses??

Great players dont always get there or win if they do...trent dilfer and hostetler have rings are they better than marino fouts or tarkenton?

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by Chaka26

Hes no gale gilbert, gale went to the superbowl 5 straight years if thats your barometer. Jim kelly went 4 straight bradshaw won 4 of 5 or 6yrs but his stats suck so do his 4 rings mean more than toms 4 as his come with 2 losses??

Great players dont always get there or win if they do...trent dilfer and hostetler have rings are they better than marino fouts or tarkenton?

Brady has been in what, 6 SBs?

Not one of the 6 did he put his team in position to enjoy the 4th quarter because the game was over. All 6 times they were in a perilous position to lose. Could have won all or lost all but never dominated and had an epic performance, plenty of Super Bowls have been won in laughers but Brady's never done it.

He's also lost twice as heavy favorite to Eli Manning who is not considered as good at Peyton.

And this is not even getting into the cheating allegations.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

Brady has been in what, 6 SBs?

Not one of the 6 did he put his team in position to enjoy the 4th quarter because the game was over. All 6 times they were in a perilous position to lose. Could have won all or lost all but never dominated and had an epic performance, plenty of Super Bowls have been won in laughers but Brady's never done it.

He's also lost twice as heavy favorite to Eli Manning who is not considered as good at Peyton.

And this is not even getting into the cheating allegations.

You are absolutely right, SRU...I never thought of that. And now that I've read this post of yours...I want to change my vote for the best QB ever to DAN FOUTS.

Not only was Fouts a prolific passer at a time when defenses dominated...but he also never put his team through the agony of being involved in a "perilous" Super Bowl situation.