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03-09-2020, 12:45 PM
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I'm a little surprised there aren't a few more famous names on that list. Maybe they have better lawyers.
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You haven't given any of the defendants a chance to flip on others yet.
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03-09-2020, 12:46 PM
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I honestly can't tell if this latest scandal is "good for the game"...or if it's the last nail in the game's coffin. My feeling is that this is just the tip of the iceberg. No way is this just about Navarro and Servis.
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03-09-2020, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike
You haven't given any of the defendants a chance to flip on others yet.
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Very astute observation.
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03-09-2020, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
I'm a little surprised there aren't a few more famous names on that list. Maybe they have better lawyers.
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Is there an official list somewhere? We all knew something was up with Navarro and Servis. Interested to see if some of my "favorite" trainers are involved.
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03-09-2020, 12:51 PM
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Anybody betting Parx today?
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03-09-2020, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mulerider
And in jurisdictions that don't give a rat's ass?
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Jersey tested Maximum security but did not test for the specific PED given to him.
States want clean racing. But the trainers are staying one step ahead of the regulators.
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03-09-2020, 12:52 PM
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Great day for honest trainers like Graham Motion.
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03-09-2020, 12:54 PM
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Somewhere up there...Jack Van Berg must be smiling.
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03-09-2020, 12:59 PM
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The shady vets are the biggest scumbags. Dr. Grasso is named in one indictment.
Trainers are more or less pawns in the game, get caught, new name comes along and buys off the the same surreptitious vets.
They have hidden behind their professional D.V.M only to fail to hold their oath.
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03-09-2020, 12:59 PM
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03-09-2020, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
If you don't like illegal conduct, prosecutors are a necessary evil. Of course they can abuse their power, and of course dealmaking isn't pretty, but at the end of the day horse racing absolutely needs an influx of federal prosecutors at this point. It's the one thing that could have a real deterrent effect.
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Even if "deals" are made with co conspirators for prosecution, tracks can still take action on their own. Time for a massive purge in racing - either the crooks or the customers. It's up to racing.
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03-09-2020, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Immortal6
Couple of highlights “lowlights” from the indictment. Just a disgusting read through if you have the time. Details how he killed XY Jet by juicing him 50 times and how Servis gave Max Sec SGF-1000 and bribed a vet essentially to say it was a false positive for a different drug.
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So basically the horses who crossed the wire first in the last two Kentucky Derbies, the last two three year old champions, were both juiced.
Lovely sport we have.
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03-09-2020, 01:17 PM
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Even if "deals" are made with co conspirators for prosecution, tracks can still take action on their own. Time for a massive purge in racing - either the crooks or the customers. It's up to racing.
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That's absolutely an important point.
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03-09-2020, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
So basically the horses who crossed the wire first in the last two Kentucky Derbies, the last two three year old champions, were both juiced.
Lovely sport we have.
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Anybody remember Sharp Aztecas incredible 6 wide the whole way in the Pat Day Mile?
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03-09-2020, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pandy
I just posted about this. Apparently a lot more names are involved including harness trainers. Navarro, obviously, is a well known juicer and I'd love to see him banned from the sport asap and hopefully face criminal charges if they can prove this.
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uh, if navarro or servis ever start another horse again , its time to give up the game forever
lets not talk about proof. Im sure they have them dead to rights
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