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04-20-2021, 04:36 PM
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Librocubicularist
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Do you?
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04-20-2021, 04:46 PM
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#7097
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
As RR would say....wow
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It's not difficult to understand. The Kingdom of God has two distinct aspects. Many theologians label them "the now" and "the not yet". The former refers to the spiritual, invisible kingdom in this age; and the latter refers to the eternal, visible kingdom in the next age, which occurs at the Second Coming when Christ recreates the heavens and the earth.
Here is one text that talks about "the now" aspect of the kingdom in this current age:
Rom 14:17-18
17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men.
NIV
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04-20-2021, 05:25 PM
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A little bit more clarification about the kingdom, such as what happens when a believer dies?
1. The body dies, but the soul lives and ascends to heaven where it lives until Christ returns. Heaven, therefore, is the intermediate state between this life and life on the new earth for all born again believers.
2. Christ returns and resurrects the righteous and the unrighteous alike and judges both groups. The unrighteous are cast into the Lake of Fire forever. The resurrected righteous, now in their new spiritual bodies, reign with Christ on the new earth for all eternity.
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04-20-2021, 05:27 PM
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Apprentice
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 11
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Originally Posted by boxcar
A little bit more clarification about the kingdom, such as what happens when a believer dies?
1. The body dies, but the soul lives and ascends to heaven where it lives until Christ returns. Heaven, therefore, is the intermediate state between this life and life on the new earth for all born again believers.
2. Christ returns and resurrects the righteous and the unrighteous alike and judges both groups. The unrighteous are cast into the Lake of Fire forever. The resurrected righteous, now in their new spiritual bodies, reign with Christ on the new earth for all eternity.
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gotta be somethin in the book about honoring debts. Shouldnt you have stopped posting here almighty, honorable boxcar, biden is president and savior
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04-20-2021, 06:28 PM
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#7100
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Originally Posted by mcqueen
gotta be somethin in the book about honoring debts. Shouldnt you have stopped posting here almighty, honorable boxcar, biden is president and savior
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I woulda but the debt collector got himself booted off the forum before January 20th. So...what to do, what to do? Are you the self-appointed agent for Hcap? Should I pay you?
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04-20-2021, 06:49 PM
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Mr. PA, here is what Paul thought of the Jews' status before God:
Rom 9:1-5
2 I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers, those of my own race, 4 the people of Israel. Theirs is the adoption as sons; theirs the divine glory, the covenants , the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. 5 Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.
NIV
Sounds like the Hebrews were mighty privileged race. Much more so than any peoples amongst the Gentiles.
Eph 2:12-13
12 ...remember that at that time you [gentiles] were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.
NIV
So why did God annul once and for all the Mosaic Covenant with the nation of Israel in 70 A.D.? Have you asked rabbi Singer yet?
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04-20-2021, 06:50 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2021
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Originally Posted by boxcar
I woulda but the debt collector got himself booted off the forum before January 20th. So...what to do, what to do? Are you the self-appointed agent for Hcap? Should I pay you?
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awfully flimsy ethics there honorable thing to do would be to honor the debt and stop posting. voids the rest of the religious pontificating if ya cant honor a simple thing
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04-20-2021, 06:55 PM
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#7103
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 28,390
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Originally Posted by mcqueen
awfully flimsy ethics there honorable thing to do would be to honor the debt and stop posting. voids the rest of the religious pontificating if ya cant honor a simple thing
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Hey...Boxcar works in mysterious ways, just like the Lord. They are both "holy"...and that's how "holiness" works.
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04-20-2021, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mcqueen
awfully flimsy ethics there honorable thing to do would be to honor the debt and stop posting. voids the rest of the religious pontificating if ya cant honor a simple thing
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My wager wasn't with everyone on the forum. It was with one guy. And the deal was that January 20th would decide who won, and Hcap did agree to that; but he didn't stick around to collect. His big mouth got him into trouble.
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04-20-2021, 07:04 PM
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#7105
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 28,390
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
My wager wasn't with everyone on the forum. It was with one guy. And the deal was that January 20th would decide who won, and Hcap did agree to that; but he didn't stick around to collect. His big mouth got him into trouble.
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Wouldn't it be easier for you to just admit that you are not a man of your word? You may be one of "God's chosen few"...but you seem to come up a little short in the "integrity" department. Is that so hard a thing for you to admit...at least to yourself?
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04-20-2021, 07:09 PM
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Apprentice
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
My wager wasn't with everyone on the forum. It was with one guy. And the deal was that January 20th would decide who won, and Hcap did agree to that; but he didn't stick around to collect. His big mouth got him into trouble.
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lul, yea just say the words "I, boxcar, lover of all things God, don't honor my word" then you never have to post about it again
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04-20-2021, 07:13 PM
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#7107
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 46,883
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Originally Posted by mcqueen
lul, yea just say the words "I, boxcar, lover of all things God, don't honor my word" then you never have to post about it again
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Dig up Hcap and I'll honor my word. He was scared to death of covid, so he's probably triple-masked up hiding under some rock somewhere.
Happy hunting.
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04-20-2021, 09:54 PM
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#7108
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 14,400
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Dig up Hcap and I'll honor my word. He was scared to death of covid, so he's probably triple-masked up hiding under some rock somewhere.
Happy hunting.
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I think he was not holding on by much, and the guy with the lonely 4 posts we have seen before.
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04-20-2021, 10:11 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,184
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
Mr. PA, here is what Paul thought of the Jews' status before God:
Rom 9:1-5
2 I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers, those of my own race, 4 the people of Israel. Theirs is the adoption as sons; theirs the divine glory, the covenants , the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. 5 Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.
NIV
Sounds like the Hebrews were mighty privileged race. Much more so than any peoples amongst the Gentiles.
Eph 2:12-13
12 ...remember that at that time you [gentiles] were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.
NIV
So why did God annul once and for all the Mosaic Covenant with the nation of Israel in 70 A.D.? Have you asked rabbi Singer yet?
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Why would I care what Paul thought or wrote?
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04-20-2021, 10:13 PM
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#7110
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,184
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Originally Posted by fast4522
I think he was not holding on by much, and the guy with the lonely 4 posts we have seen before.
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Oh, we definitely have seen him before.
It's amazing how the people who despise and spit on this place the most, are the ones who just CAN NOT STAY AWAY.
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