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Old 08-07-2022, 10:27 PM   #31
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Yes it’s obvious you toad! Every time you raise your price (for any reason) you shrink your customer base.

Spoken like a true government employee who’s never issued a paycheck or run a business.

Stay in your own lane you socialist POS
I guess I will have to explain what I mean in simple declarative sentences. I keep hearing how raising taxes on corporations won’t hurt them because they will simply pass those raises onto their customers. My opinion is they will not pass them on because doing so will hurt there business. Or they will be very reluctant to do so.

And you just said you agree with my reasoning. Although I doubt you realize it.

So, if they can’t pass the extra expenses on to their customers, since doing so would cost them business, their only alternative is to fight the increases.

Bottom line is a tax increase on a business affects that business much more than it affects its customers. More importantly, businesses, particularly large corporations, have been stealing from the American people for decades. What we are doing now will recoup only a tiny fraction of what they owe.
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Old 08-07-2022, 10:36 PM   #32
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I guess I will have to explain what I mean in simple declarative sentences. I keep hearing how raising taxes on corporations won’t hurt them because they will simply pass those raises onto their customers. My opinion is they will not pass them on because doing so will hurt there business. Or they will be very reluctant to do so.

And you just said you agree with my reasoning. Although I doubt you realize it.

So, if they can’t pass the extra expenses on to their customers, since doing so would cost them business, their only alternative is to fight the increases.

Bottom line is a tax increase on a business affects that business much more than it affects its customers. More importantly, businesses, particularly large corporations, have been stealing from the American people for decades. What we are doing now will recoup only a tiny fraction of what they owe.
Only you and your ilk would think like that.
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Old 08-07-2022, 11:15 PM   #33
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You idiot.
When that money goes to taxes, it is 90% wasted.
When it dosen't go to taxes, it is churned to create more business and more wealth and allows for investment, the opposite of taxes.
Investment my a$$. Of course there is some investment, but just one example since 2017 Exxon Mobil has bought back over $87B worth of its own stock. That raises the value of the stock without adding to the value of the company. Did Exxon Mobil invest in refineries. I doubt since there are many fewer refineries today. Did they invest in drilling. Areas recently opened up to drilling and nobody bid on them. Companies will only expand to the point where they feel they are filling a need.

Otherwise, that will keep their profits and buy yachts of private airplanes or build rocket ships. Of course they would never consider paying their employees more.

Money paid in taxes is much less wasted than money paid to executive salaries and bonuses. The latter is wasted on multiple homes, automobiles, yachts and aircraft that benefit one family.
The former pays for roads, schools, retirements, healthcare, recreational services, police and fire, National and state parks, National defense and many other goods and services. Things which benefit all of society.
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Only you and your ilk would think like that.
And me and my elk would be right.
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Old 08-08-2022, 10:25 AM   #35
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in theory, everything sounds great. there is nowhere near enough copper in this world to make any kind of a substantial dent into this clean energy plan.

it really amazes me how much shit they all try to shove up your rear ends. this is all about making their friends rich somehow and removing money from you at the same time. this government is rotten to the core, any side that you follow.
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Only you and your ilk would think like that.
Our resident postman is clueless when it comes to the business world. He apparently thinks that businesses are also in the charity business and that they will simply absorb increased costs of doing business because to do otherwise would hurt them.

Ignorance is truly blissful to the Mosties of this world.
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Investment my a$$. Of course there is some investment, but just one example since 2017 Exxon Mobil has bought back over $87B worth of its own stock. That raises the value of the stock without adding to the value of the company. Did Exxon Mobil invest in refineries. I doubt since there are many fewer refineries today. Did they invest in drilling. Areas recently opened up to drilling and nobody bid on them. Companies will only expand to the point where they feel they are filling a need.

Where to start... Exxon stock worth more increases the wealth of all who own a shares of it.

This administration cut sales and leases... on oil rich ground and placed roadblocks on pipelines needed to flesh out other sites.

Jimmy Corporations don't pay Taxes... they are a conduit to collect them and pass them on to the coffers of the government be it local or federal. So this 15% will be passed on plus the added cost of compliance... so really 18 to 20% will be passed along to the end users.

Here let's put it in terms even a former letter mule can comprehend. Why does the United States Post Office keep raising the price of stamps on their customers?

Ok Jimmy... how many years does it take to bring a refinery online... 15 - 20 or more years... nine truck trailers worth of paper. Very expensive just dealing with the red tape BS. And even after you have jumped thru all the hops. Your still in danger of some asshat with a pen and no brains shutting it all down... after you have invested billions. Like dipshit Joe did to KeystoneXL.


Otherwise, that will keep their profits and buy yachts of private airplanes or build rocket ships. Of course they would never consider paying their employees more.
Who's That?

You know what happens when you purchase something? You pay taxes on it... your purchase also allows the seller, builder and material suppliers to be able to purchase things they want.. which are taxed. Good employees get better wages... Clock punchers and phone watchers get minimum wage... till they are replaced with good workers.

Money paid in taxes is much less wasted than money paid to executive salaries and bonuses. The latter is wasted on multiple homes, automobiles, yachts and aircraft that benefit one family.
The former pays for roads, schools, retirements, healthcare, recreational services, police and fire, National and state parks, National defense and many other goods and services. Things which benefit all of society.
What happens to those collected taxes... wasteful spending like studies on the sexual identity of fruit flies... or crack pipes for addicts... or looking into racist roads and bridges... billions are wasted annually.
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And me and my elk would be right.
No... as always almostpost your wrong.
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I guess I will have to explain what I mean in simple declarative sentences. I keep hearing how raising taxes on corporations won’t hurt them because they will simply pass those raises onto their customers. My opinion is they will not pass them on because doing so will hurt there business. Or they will be very reluctant to do so.

And you just said you agree with my reasoning. Although I doubt you realize it.

So, if they can’t pass the extra expenses on to their customers, since doing so would cost them business, their only alternative is to fight the increases.

Bottom line is a tax increase on a business affects that business much more than it affects its customers. More importantly, businesses, particularly large corporations, have been stealing from the American people for decades. What we are doing now will recoup only a tiny fraction of what they owe.

Interesting how you start with your typical condescending insult, then proceed to make inaccurate statements. I only have a two year business degree which included courses in economics and accounting. As you stated in another thread you read a lot, and I am positive you don't even get the full value of that, as you won't read anything that comes from a conservative point of view. Besides that reading is half the education, real life experience counts for a lot.



No way in hell will a business that provides an essential service, has limited competition, and not going to see any major technical advances the competition doesn't have, not going to pass tax increases on to consumers. To think otherwise is nonsense.


About the only business that would even think about eating a tax increase would be a high margin one that provides non essential services that people can live without.
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No way in hell will a business that provides an essential service, has limited competition, and not going to see any major technical advances the competition doesn't have, not going to pass tax increases on to consumers. To think otherwise is nonsense........

Businesses with substantial competition will need to pass on the additional cost or get out of business. It is unlikely that an industry with substantial competition will be competing with companies who are not also greatly affected by increased costs. So the result will be decreased supply from companies leaving the business and/or price hikes to consumers by the remaining companies.
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Businesses with substantial competition will need to pass on the additional cost or get out of business. It is unlikely that an industry with substantial competition will be competing with companies who are not also greatly affected by increased costs. So the result will be decreased supply from companies leaving the business and/or price hikes to consumers by the remaining companies.

I am pretty sure raising prices because you are becoming the only game in town would be considered immoral as far as the Biden administration is concerned and they will call those business owners greedy.



I wonder how many business owners and managers give a crap what the Biden administration thinks?
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Look at Mr. Shaky Hands and Lindsey Graham sitting there on CNN...it just hit me how absolutely disgusting America's representatives have become...engorging themselves on taxpayers...look at those two pieces of absolute shit just shitting there, shaking and laughing...

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Businesses with substantial competition will need to pass on the additional cost or get out of business. It is unlikely that an industry with substantial competition will be competing with companies who are not also greatly affected by increased costs. So the result will be decreased supply from companies leaving the business and/or price hikes to consumers by the remaining companies.
Which narrows their customer base
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