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Old 07-24-2022, 09:38 AM   #61
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Are you his agent?
Obviously not, though I do want to point out one other very important business issue that has nothing to do with salaries.

This thread has discussed the importance of the "Voice of NYRA" and with their heavy investment(s) in the daily broadcasts (America's Day at the Races, Saratoga Live), you can easily argue that the "Voice" must be uniquely identified with the NYRA brand.

Which brings me back to the Collmus debate - not as an announcer, but as a business decision. If NYRA's goal was to have that uniquely identifiable voice, Collmus could not continue to be the "Voice of the Triple Crown", the "Voice of NBC", and so forth. If NYRA brand is tied to these broadcasts, one cannot have Collmus announcing the Derby, Preakness, or even Breeder's Cup at the expense of and in competition with your own product.
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Old 07-24-2022, 10:59 AM   #62
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Which brings me back to the Collmus debate - not as an announcer, but as a business decision. If NYRA's goal was to have that uniquely identifiable voice, Collmus could not continue to be the "Voice of the Triple Crown", the "Voice of NBC", and so forth. If NYRA brand is tied to these broadcasts, one cannot have Collmus announcing the Derby, Preakness, or even Breeder's Cup at the expense of and in competition with your own product.
No way that had anything to do with it. Wouldn't you want your track announcer calling the biggest races on the national stage?
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Old 07-24-2022, 11:31 AM   #63
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No way that had anything to do with it. Wouldn't you want your track announcer calling the biggest races on the national stage?
This. Indeed, NYRA's first famous announcer, Fred Capposella, did network TV telecasts of the TC for many years, and NYRA deliberately hired Chic Anderson, Tom Durkin, and Larry Collmus when they already had high profile network gigs.

What's different is that current NYRA management decided they no longer want to pay the salary that an a-list announcer commands, so they parted ways with Collmus and elevated their backup announcer instead, and saved about $200,000 a year.
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Old 07-24-2022, 06:49 PM   #64
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What's different is that current NYRA management decided they no longer want to pay the salary that an a-list announcer commands, so they parted ways with Collmus and elevated their backup announcer instead, and saved about $200,000 a year.
For the two or three of you that might still listen to this poster, there is ZERO truth to this.
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This. Indeed, NYRA's first famous announcer, Fred Capposella, did network TV telecasts of the TC for many years, and NYRA deliberately hired Chic Anderson, Tom Durkin, and Larry Collmus when they already had high profile network gigs.

What's different is that current NYRA management decided they no longer want to pay the salary that an a-list announcer commands, so they parted ways with Collmus and elevated their backup announcer instead, and saved about $200,000 a year.
200k? You really think they were 200k apart?
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Old 07-24-2022, 10:05 PM   #66
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200k? You really think they were 200k apart?
He just makes shit up. He has no clue.
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But you look terrible when you swear that he commands the same sort of money as the top announcer in the country,
That never happened. Don't let that stop you though.
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Old 07-24-2022, 10:37 PM   #68
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but there seems to be way more aligned insights coming from people like Patterson and the wonderful team at Colonial

here at NYRA we get opinions, which it feels like half the time are way off the mark

everyone's entitled to an opinion but I know I'm not the only one who feels this way

not sure what's "classless" about that

and I just discovered this site, sorry about that, thanks for the nice welcome
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How much is mountainman and CNL paying you?
You know me better. I do not take hidden shots at people. That's beneath me.

I want no part of this nonsense. None of it.
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You know me better. I do not take hidden shots at people. That's beneath me.

I want no part of this nonsense. None of it.
Lighten up my dude. It was a joke.

Surely being in the public eye as long as you have, I would have thought your skin was a tad thicker.
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what are you talking about?

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Colonial handle is way up for a good reason, and Mark is a national treasure but carry on
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Colonial handle is way up for a good reason, and Mark is a national treasure but carry on
Quite a resume in seven posts.

Do I have to tell Jessica you're using her to try to disparage me?
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sorry about 7 posts

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Quite a resume in seven posts.

Do I have to tell Jessica you're using her to try to disparage me?
just found this place, what do I know
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just found this place, what do I know
You know how to lie...but thanks for the laugh
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okay I'll be even more honest

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You know how to lie...but thanks for the laugh
yes I just found this place

and while you are oddly entertaining,
I don't understand how you remain on the air
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