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08-02-2023, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Democrats started this ball rolling with Gore v Bush.
They've ratcheted it up ever since...and are now seeking to imprison their political rivals on bogus charges.
Fun times.
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Only difference is Gore conceded AFTER his court appeals ended. Trump didn't. Kind of a big difference.
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08-02-2023, 01:32 PM
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An error on my part. The co-conspirators have not been charged, yet. They may be flipping.
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Most likely those conspirators will be charged under a separate indictment. Mutiple defenders in a case tend to prolong a speedy trial. This one is only on Trump. This one may be done prior to the documents case in Florida.
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08-02-2023, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
so who will be in jail first? Trump or Biden?
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Which Biden?
Not Hunter who without debate committed a felony with his lting on the gun applicastion, years ago.
I guess mostie, horsey, and 46 really don't believe their drivrl about gun control when they give a drug dealer a pass on gun charges.
TELLS TOY ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THEIR INTEGRITY.
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08-02-2023, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Secretariat
Addtionally, freedom of speech is not limitless.
"As the Supreme Court held in Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969), the government may forbid “incitement”—speech “directed at inciting or producing imminent lawless action” and “likely to incite or produce such action” (such as a speech to a mob urging it to attack a nearby building). "
"Personalized threats of illegal conduct, such as death threats, may also be punished."
"Defamatory lies (which are called “libel” if written and “slander” if spoken), lying under oath, and fraud may also be punished."
"Schenck v. United States, legal case in which the U.S. Supreme Court ruled on March 3, 1919, that the freedom of speech protection afforded in the U.S. Constitution’s First Amendment could be restricted if the words spoken or printed represented to society a “clear and present danger.”
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Trump said Peacefully and Patrioticly... no where did he say any of those lies you've been fed and now pushing.
But we do have on video.. Maxine Waters encouraging acts of violence against any one in the Trump administration... you get in their faces... you do whatever to let them know they are not welcome. Rand Paul was attacked in the street.
And the Chuck Schumer... threatening Supreme Court Justices. And the troops rallied at their homes.. and one came to assassinate Brent Kavanaugh on his saber rattling.
Have not heard a peep from you or anyone on the left to file charges on any of these violent speeches... and incitement to violence.
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08-02-2023, 01:59 PM
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That is what democrat means - lying hypocrite/
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08-02-2023, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Secretariat
Tom, you may be surprised, but I am actually hoping Republicans keep backing Trump for the primary, because it helps Democrats in the next election. I really want him to run on this record and continue to defend his actions through this.
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It's ridiculous that Trump ever decided to run again. He has ZERO chance...even if he were NEVER indicted on anything.
At this point, both Tim Scott and Vivek Ramaswamy would trounce Biden in the general election.
Not too sure about DeSantis...but even he would have a good shot.
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08-02-2023, 05:33 PM
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How could the 2020 election be rigged?
More blacks voted for Biden then
Obama. Trump got millions of more
votes than he did in the first election.
First time that has ever happened.
Watch the movie, 2000 Mules.
People just lie all the time or they
are plain stupid. Perhaps both ...
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08-02-2023, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Scamper
People just lie all the time or they
are plain stupid. Perhaps both ...
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You ever watch anything besides CNN?
Better not watch so many movies,
they will rot what's left of your brain.
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08-02-2023, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
It's ridiculous that Trump ever decided to run again. He has ZERO chance...even if he were NEVER indicted on anything.
At this point, both Tim Scott and Vivek Ramaswamy would trounce Biden in the general election.
Not too sure about DeSantis...but even he would have a good shot.
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Like it or not we will have but 2 choices after the primary has been decided.
The American people will not have the hooey that is posted here as part of the thought process, data that is real to them like the economy, inflation, and factors close to them will be key to family logic in voting. For whatever reason the next 170 days there will be a flood of posts and videos that just scroll off, this is what we do. To conclude as long as we have the Biden Administration in control we will have war at the very least. I am not an anti war guy by any means but this is not what I want either.
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08-02-2023, 07:24 PM
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The difference between me and you is that I don't post stuff to bury Trump.
I post plenty of positive Trump stuff...but you...you and your band of merry MAGAs all around social media (not talking about just here) went full bore into DeSantis from the moment he announced because you knew he was the biggest threat going.
Fine...have at it...revel in your victory if DeSantis continues to die out.
Just know you've given up all hope of taking back the White House in 2024 if Trump is your man on election day.
This country could be a smoldering heap of ashes on November 5, 2024, and Biden would still win (or ANY Democrat) if Trump is the Republican nominee.
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08-02-2023, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
The difference between me and you is that I don't post stuff to bury Trump.
I post plenty of positive Trump stuff...but you...you and your band of merry MAGAs all around social media (not talking about just here) went full bore into DeSantis from the moment he announced because you knew he was the biggest threat going.
Fine...have at it...revel in your victory if DeSantis continues to die out.
Just know you've given up all hope of taking back the White House in 2024 if Trump is your man on election day.
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We the people of MAGA did not make choices for DeSantis, he did that all on his own. Besides his mistakes he is also like an onion that everyone can if they choose can peel back, yes he did well in Florida but here on a national level his money is 100% establishment elite and none are sitting well with any MAGA informed members who are as tight in thought than any voting block. Sure Rockefeller Republicans have the option to side with us or go it alone, with us hind tit is all they get in the platform at a convention. It is what it is and nothing is going to change that.
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08-03-2023, 04:07 AM
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The Dershowitz on the indictment
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08-03-2023, 10:04 AM
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DeSantis already seems to be toast, Trump and the MSM I believe already have put him away. Tim Scott anyone?
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08-03-2023, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by OntheRail
Trump said Peacefully and Patrioticly... no where did he say any of those lies you've been fed and now pushing.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...rst-amendment/
If the mobster Al Capone said to his henchmen. I want this done. This guy has betrayed us. We can never allow this. Petey here says we need to kick some ass. But patriotically and peacefully right? (laughing) Now enough already. Go down there and take care of it.
btw....He's not being charged with incitement, but with obstruction and conspiracy. The entire speech is nothing but incitement, except for his little added disclaimer which was ignored by the mob.
The obstruction and conspiracy charges are easily proven. Trump's lawyers adding that phrase in the speech may have saved him from incitement with that little phrase from a conservative Supreme Court, but frankly the article outlines the reason Smith could have charged incitement. But he really doesn't need it.
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08-03-2023, 10:47 AM
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Do you think Democrats will make the goal of dragging out J6 and connections to until the election? They are over 60% of the way there and no signs of weakening.
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