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03-01-2012, 12:03 AM
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Rule No.
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1544
Calling off Race.
These are California rules.
Rule Text
(a) If the stewards determine a race cannot start before midnight or cannot be conducted in accordance with the Board's rules and regulations, they shall cancel and call off such race. (b) The stewards may declare a race no contest if mechanical failure or interference during the running of the race affects the majority of horses in such race. (c) Any wagers on races called off, canceled, or declared no contest shall be refunded, and no purse, prize or stakes shall be awarded. (d) If a race is called off, canceled, or declared no contest, any submitted claims shall be void. (e) A race shall be canceled if no horse covers the course. NOTE: Authority cited: Sections 19420 and 19440, Business and Professions Code. Reference: Section 19562, Business and Professions Code. HISTORY: Amendment filed 11-22-06; effective 12-22-06.
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03-01-2012, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RXB
I love Google-- and BRIS chart archives. Bay Meadows, April 4, 2001. Race 8. Nine starters. Six DNF's. One horse broke down, one fell over the stricken horse and another lost its rider in the process of avoiding the spill. Three others were impeded so badly as to lose all chance. Flip The Kitty, LA Polly and Laststarofpromise finished but the stewards declared the race no contest.
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Also one from Del Mar 9/4/2005
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03-01-2012, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by AlbertButtry
Rule No.
Rule Title
1544
Calling off Race.
These are California rules.
Rule Text
(a) If the stewards determine a race cannot start before midnight or cannot be conducted in accordance with the Board's rules and regulations, they shall cancel and call off such race. (b) The stewards may declare a race no contest if mechanical failure or interference during the running of the race affects the majority of horses in such race. (c) Any wagers on races called off, canceled, or declared no contest shall be refunded, and no purse, prize or stakes shall be awarded. (d) If a race is called off, canceled, or declared no contest, any submitted claims shall be void. (e) A race shall be canceled if no horse covers the course. NOTE: Authority cited: Sections 19420 and 19440, Business and Professions Code. Reference: Section 19562, Business and Professions Code. HISTORY: Amendment filed 11-22-06; effective 12-22-06.
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The word "may" means it is a judgment call. I believe New York Stewards can also call a race void too, but the rule is very vague:
4035.5. Stewards may declare race void, order refund.
The stewards shall have the authority to declare a race void and to order all wagers made thereon refunded if they shall determine that any occurrence before or during the running of such race calls for such action by them.
http://www.racing.state.ny.us/about/...1-4039.22.html
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03-01-2012, 12:59 AM
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Let's go Reds!!
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Originally Posted by BombsAway Bob
How can one horse crossing the Wire Be Declared An Official race,
unless perhaps there are only two runners to start?
Simple... TAKEOUT!
CharlesTown Stewards should be thrown in jail for stealing Bettors
money. In addition to WPS/Ex/Tri/Super takeout, they would have
lost Late DD pool money, too!
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Easy, it's Charles Town. They don't care about racing, their main concern is the slots and casino! 
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03-01-2012, 02:32 AM
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By the looks of the chart it seems the winner got the whole purse. True?
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03-01-2012, 02:40 AM
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Don't want to watch a replay from the sound of it, but sure hope everyone makes it out of it in at least good shape.
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03-01-2012, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BombsAway Bob
How can one horse crossing the Wire Be Declared An Official race,
unless perhaps there are only two runners to start?
Simple... TAKEOUT!
CharlesTown Stewards should be thrown in jail for stealing Bettors
money. In addition to WPS/Ex/Tri/Super takeout, they would have
lost Late DD pool money, too!
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$2.00 Exacta 3-ALL =$5.60
$2.00 Trifecta 3-ALL-ALL =$5.60
$1.00 Trifecta Box =$2.80
$0.50 Superfecta 3-ALL-ALL-ALL =$1.30
$2.00 Double 5/3 =$102.80
$2.00 Double 3/ALL =$6.80
$2.00 Pick-3 5/3/ALL- 3 of 3 =$149.40
$0.50 Pick-4 3/5/3,4,7/ALL- 3 of 4 =$590.15
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Many jurisdictions have different rules for these type instances.
In California the stewards would use rule #1544 to guide their decision.
It reads....................
1544. Calling off Race.
(a) If the stewards determine a race cannot start before midnight or cannot be conducted in accordance with the Board’s rules and regulations, they shall cancel and call off such race.
(b) The stewards may declare a race no contest if mechanical failure or interference during the running of the race affects the majority of horses in such race.
(c) Any wagers on races called off, canceled, or declared no contest shall be refunded, and no purse, prize or stakes shall be awarded.
(d) If a race is called off, canceled, or declared no contest, any submitted claims shall be void.
(e) A race shall be canceled if no horse covers the course.
Hope that sheds some helpful light.
Praying for the fallen jockeys and horses.
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03-01-2012, 02:48 AM
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OOPS 
Just scrolled back and saw Albert's post.
Good job A.
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03-01-2012, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan04
Easy, it's Charles Town. They don't care about racing, their main concern is the slots and casino! |
Racing isn't viable at Charles Town without the slots, but this statement doesn't really gell with the $1,000,000 prize at the Charles Town Classic, which they have no obligation to keep running.
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03-01-2012, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan04
Easy, it's Charles Town. They don't care about racing, their main concern is the slots and casino! |
Sorry, but this just does not make sense. Aqueduct has just 2 finishers in this race a couple of years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLsJbOrPsSU
Do they not care about racing?
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03-01-2012, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wisconsin
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Wow... guess i'm wrong...
(Anyone following my picks on Twitter know that is no surprise!)
Honestly thought "No Contest" was only fair result for bettors.
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03-01-2012, 02:18 PM
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Charles Town 2/29/2012 Spill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-rQofsWM9Q
In the eighth race at Charles Town on February 29, 2012 only one out of the eight runners finished an ugly allowance sprint in the slop.
Sharp Beauty set the pace but broke down near the quarter pole under Carlos Marrero, setting off a chain reaction that left only one horse and rider standing at the finish line.
Little Miss Jane, Spunkette, Shine For Me, and Simsational fell and walked off.
Page's Promise fell and walked off with cuts on her left front leg and left stifle.
Ideal Thoughts stumbled at the start and trailed before losing her rider trying to avoid the spill.
Post time favorite Miss Fifty won the demolition derby after checking sharply to avoid the spill under Oswald Pereira. She paid $5.60 to win.
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03-01-2012, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
How in the world did even that one rider stay on? That was some balance.
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It looked like his horse MISS FIFTY, really came through for him. Both she and Oswald Pereira showed pretty amazing balance. Either could have easily gone down.
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03-01-2012, 02:43 PM
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That was crazy. In watching the replay, pertty eventful for the jock on the 1, stumble out of gate to almost fall off and then the horse goes down in the resulting fall.
Almost disaster after the race, when the winner has stopped his gallop and the loose horse narrowly avoids running into jock and horse.
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03-01-2012, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BombsAway Bob
Wow... guess i'm wrong...
(Anyone following my picks on Twitter know that is no surprise!)
Honestly thought "No Contest" was only fair result for bettors. |
To me, fair is following the rules. In NY, there are rules specifically covering what happens to the pools if only one horse finishes. Looks like CT has basically the same rules. I too was under the impression that a certain percentage had to finish the race here, but had that wrong. Only called off and full refunds if no one finishes, also in the rules.
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