If someone asks you to repeat your wager

[Wagergirl]

you can almost guarantee it has nothing to do with them being a "%$^&*(*&^% retard" as much as it has to do with we can't hear you because

• Your tv/radio is too loud, turn it down before you call.
• The bar you are in is too loud, step out side before you call

or our accent is diffferent then your accent. speak slowly...

but if we are asking you to repeat it. Don't be mad.. we are doing it to make sure we have your wager right.

but calling me a "^&*()(*& retard" is not going to get your wager in.

ok.. I'm done venting.

[JustRalph]

This is great. I like hearing the other side

[thaskalos]

Maybe the horses were already in the gate...and the customer was afraid of being shut off.

Personally, I don't mind getting shut off, because I figure it saves me money in the long run.

But some players are more optimistic than I am...

[Wagergirl]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Maybe the horses were already in the gate...and the customer was afraid of being shut off.

Personally, I don't mind getting shut off, because I figure it saves me money in the long run.

But some players are more optimistic than I am...

That can be the case, but yelling at the wager taker.. isn't going to help. repeat, and then yell at them after the wager is in.

I have found that the people with the most money in their accounts are the ones who are the most laid back. It is kinda funny to me to be yelled at at someone who has 76 cents in his account and he is trying to get his ten cent supers in.

[Zydeco]

good info. thanks

[Grits]

Originally Posted by Wagergirl

you can almost guarantee it has nothing to do with them being a "%$^&*(*&^% retard" as much as it has to do with we can't hear you because

• Your tv/radio is too loud, turn it down before you call.
• The bar you are in is too loud, step out side before you call

or our accent is diffferent then your accent. speak slowly...

but if we are asking you to repeat it. Don't be mad.. we are doing it to make sure we have your wager right.

but calling me a "^&*()(*& retard" is not going to get your wager in.

ok.. I'm done venting.

Please, if possible, can you use another term. My son is Down Syndrome, he's "special needs", the proper term used today. Though grown, he's my only child. Its hurtful to read anyone being called a "retard", when through no choice of his or her own, one is born mentally handicapped. Its equally so to read "the normal population" called the same.

I don't mean to be a problem, but I wouldn't be the mother I am, if I didn't ask. I hope you'll understand. This is the second time this one's been rolled out this week.

[Meunuco]

Originally Posted by Grits

I don't mean to be a problem,

Which reminds me of that classic line, in one of my favorite movies, "Shag, the movie", where the dude says to Phoebe Cates' character something like: "you sure do have a lot of rules for yourself, Miss Carson."

Luckily, she relaxed a bit. But that's the movies.

[ElKabong]

Grits,

I think she only used the phrase b/c she was called that, on the phone. At least that was how I interpreted her post. I could be wrong

Being guilty of using that phrase here, mostly in jest, I'll stop at your request.

Wagergirl,
sorry you have to suffer that abuse, but don't take it personally. Looking at folks at the simo, they're not the most polite beings alive. It's basically a reflection on their personality, not the person taking the bet....Just be glad you're not them. Anyone flying off the handle to a person on a phone they've never met has deeper issues than impatience

[Rookies]

Originally Posted by ElKabong

Grits,

I think she only used the phrase b/c she was called that, on the phone. At least that was how I interpreted her post. I could be wrong

I think that's probably a correct interpretation; however she could have eliminated the word entirely as the message was already clear.

As someone in an identical situation, I second Grits.

[Wagergirl]

Originally Posted by Grits

Please, if possible, can you use another term. My son is Down Syndrome, he's "special needs", the proper term used today. Though grown, he's my only child. Its hurtful to read anyone being called a "retard", when through no choice of his or her own, one is born mentally handicapped. Its equally so to read "the normal population" called the same.

I don't mean to be a problem, but I wouldn't be the mother I am, if I didn't ask. I hope you'll understand. This is the second time this one's been rolled out this week.

I was just quoting what the person on the phone called me. I agree Grits, i would never use that word to describe anyone. I also have a son who is special needs. I am sorry if it offended you, that was my point though, that those words do not need to be used.


Rookies is right. I should have also used cartoon cussing to include that word. Again, I am sincerely sorry for offending.

[Ocala Mike]

This is wandering away from the thread, I know, but the discussion about using the word "retard" brought something to mind for me. I heard the word "cripple" used today to describe an Alzheimer's patient confined to a wheelchair and needing constant supervision by his caretaker. Interestingly enough, the person who used the word WAS the caretaker, a loving family member.

I was about to say something to the effect that the word "cripple" went out with FDR, I thought, and another term such as "mobility-impaired" or just "disabled" is now used. Has anyone heard the word "cripple" used much lately? Would I have been out of line to criticize the person who is, by all accounts, providing excellent care for the patient (who happens to be her father). Just thought it sounded so over the top and wrong.

[KingChas]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

This is great. I like hearing the other side

Here's another side.
This whole thread is the reason I use the machines.
Don't want to see tellers replaced but I don't need the BS.
Most players I know with the most money in their accounts do not need these problems nor do they take large cash wagers to the windows.
I screw up with the machine,(SAM) it's on me,
now cashing out and tipping is another story.

If you are talking about phone wagering, here in PA., that is virtually obsolete,with an internet connection and betting account.

[Grits]

Wager, it doesn't offend, what it does is harm. I'm seasoned with 35 years of experience in dealing with incidents like this one and I handle it with grace for the most part. Still, its like a knife, its a slur towards one's child and it causes harm for the reason I stated.

We'll be fine, here at PA. We'll be fine. This is behind us.

One's not paid to be called such names as you were while taking wagers. Me? I'd hang up in their face, right after I softly told them, "honey, let me show you how one gets shut out!"

Elka, thank you for your kindness and thanks to others here that stop, that think, that choose another way to express themselves, or their point. Rookies and I are always together on these things. Its our children.

As for you, Mr.Meunuco, I'm not ever more relaxed than when addressing special needs. It, and how to deal with the many aspects of it, are what I KNOW and what I DO better than anything else. And this includes, tonight, and earlier this week, when I asked you to "please, use another phrase." You wanna keep following my posts, and smarting off, you do so. At the same time, I'll keep in mind, comedian Ron White's best line, ever. It describes your dilemma.

"You Can't Fix Stupid."

[Grits]

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike

This is wandering away from the thread, I know, but the discussion about using the word "retard" brought something to mind for me. I heard the word "cripple" used today to describe an Alzheimer's patient confined to a wheelchair and needing constant supervision by his caretaker. Interestingly enough, the person who used the word WAS the caretaker, a loving family member.

I was about to say something to the effect that the word "cripple" went out with FDR, I thought, and another term such as "mobility-impaired" or just "disabled" is now used. Has anyone heard the word "cripple" used much lately? Would I have been out of line to criticize the person who is, by all accounts, providing excellent care for the patient (who happens to be her father). Just thought it sounded so over the top and wrong.

OMike, in answer to your question. No, I haven't heard this word used in many, many years. For the family member, though, the caregiver, who is taking care of that patient? No, I wouldn't have said a word to correct him or her. That daughter is doing the most difficult work of her life. The stress that she is under is monumental. My parents are in their mid 80s, my dad has this disease. He's still doing some things for himself. He dresses like he just stepped out of GQ every morning. But, he can't find the milk in the refrigerator, put sugar in his coffee, or remember anything said to him longer than 5 to 10 minutes. He spends most of his time in his rocking chair. Today, we spent the afternoon at Duke seeing his doctors. I hate this disease. You watch your loved one die one day at a time. Its heartbreaking. And crippling, too.

[Wagergirl]

Originally Posted by KingChas

If you are talking about phone wagering, here in PA., that is virtually obsolete,with an internet connection and betting account.

I actually work for one of those "internet connection/betting account" places. we average about 8k calls a day. I am very thankful that it is not completely obsolete.