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Old 05-27-2018, 04:42 PM   #31
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Feel free to post to yourself.
Think of it as you can say anything you want without being called out on lies claiming to speak for god or Jesus.
At least I would be posting to an intelligent self. Talking to you is akin to talking to a bag of rocks. (Said at the risk of insulting rocks.)
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Old 05-27-2018, 05:07 PM   #32
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The Gospel is a polarizing message. People either love it or hate it.
Naw...most just ignore it.
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Old 05-27-2018, 05:52 PM   #33
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Back on topic. Maybe this is the reason there is a belief in occult attacks on the President.

Each month, thousands of witches cast a spell against Donald Trump
https://www.vox.com/2017/6/20/158303...rump-mememagic

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/441281...m-his-actions/

Seems there is a basis for the belief. I am sure HRC's west coast coven has a leadership role.
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Hillary, Nancy.......
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Naw...most just ignore it.
And pretend they don't hate it.
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Back on topic. Maybe this is the reason there is a belief in occult attacks on the President.

Each month, thousands of witches cast a spell against Donald Trump
https://www.vox.com/2017/6/20/158303...rump-mememagic

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/441281...m-his-actions/

Seems there is a basis for the belief. I am sure HRC's west coast coven has a leadership role.
From the Vox link:

As Doucette put it: “I’m cynical. Much as I don’t think my vote has an effect, I don’t think my spell is binding anyone. But for me, the practice of a community getting together for a common goal … it kind of filled something in me.”

I bet it did. Most likely all the empty space between his ears.

Hey, 'cap, Witchery should be right up your alley. You should find a coven near you.
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And pretend they don't hate it.
There isn't just "love", and "hate"...there is also INDIFFERENCE. And, like it or not, "indifference" is where religion has been relegated to, as far as the majority is concerned. Sure...people talk a pretty good game when the conversation turns to the "divine", but when it comes to heeding the divine message...even the majority of the "believers" turn their backs in indifference. Don't blame me...call it a sign of the times.
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There isn't just "love", and "hate"...there is also INDIFFERENCE. And, like it or not, "indifference" is where religion has been relegated to, as far as the majority is concerned. Sure...people talk a pretty good game when the conversation turns to the "divine", but when it comes to heeding the divine message...even the majority of the "believers" turn their backs in indifference. Don't blame me...call it a sign of the times.
People can hate and be indifferent. The two aren't mutually exclusive emotional states. Indifference can result from a deep-seated latent or dormant hate.
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People can hate and be indifferent. The two aren't mutually exclusive emotional states. Indifference can result from a deep-seated latent or dormant hate.
Boxcar, since this isn't the religious thread...I beg you to please come to your senses. Your assertion that humanity "hates" God is ABSURD. "God" is an unknown quantity...whose existence relies entirely upon the narrative of some books of questionable origin. People need concrete reasons in order to "hate". When they deal with the "unknown"..."hate" is the wrong word to use in order to describe people's feelings towards it.

Yes...whenever a survey is taken, most people say that they believe in a "higher power". But ask them if they believe in a bearded man on a heavenly throne who keeps score of humanity's "sins", and they will shrug their shoulders and go about their business...with nary a word of reply. Isn't that the very definition of "indifference"?
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Boxcar, since this isn't the religious thread...I beg you to please come to your senses. Your assertion that humanity "hates" God is ABSURD. "God" is an unknown quantity...whose existence relies entirely upon the narrative of some books of questionable origin. People need concrete reasons in order to "hate". When they deal with the "unknown"..."hate" is the wrong word to use in order to describe people's feelings towards it.

Yes...whenever a survey is taken, most people say that they believe in a "higher power". But ask them if they believe in a bearded man on a heavenly throne who keeps score of humanity's "sins", and they will shrug their shoulders and go about their business...with nary a word of reply. Isn't that the very definition of "indifference"?
Do you know what the subconscious level of the mind is? Do you know how powerful the subconscious level can be?

Anyhow...this is a discussion for the Religious thread which, according to Hcap is as dead as his brain (actually I added the last phrase). But you could prove him wrong...
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Boxcar, since this isn't the religious thread...I beg you to please come to your senses. Your assertion that humanity "hates" God is ABSURD. "God" is an unknown quantity...whose existence relies entirely upon the narrative of some books of questionable origin. People need concrete reasons in order to "hate". When they deal with the "unknown"..."hate" is the wrong word to use in order to describe people's feelings towards it.

Yes...whenever a survey is taken, most people say that they believe in a "higher power". But ask them if they believe in a bearded man on a heavenly throne who keeps score of humanity's "sins", and they will shrug their shoulders and go about their business...with nary a word of reply. Isn't that the very definition of "indifference"?
Scholars in the cognitive science of religion would describe religion as an evolutionary by-product of mental processes, i.e., the cultural aspects of religion (oral transmission, e.g.) precede the "books". Also, Aristotle arrived at an "Unmoved Mover", whether rightly or wrongly, via speculations of the observable world by ancient Greek philosophers...

https://books.google.com/books?id=sy...page&q&f=false

It would seem "indifference" implies freedom, as opposed to the evolutionary theory above, as well as the deniers of free will in the Religious thread debates.

In all of this, I do not disagree that indifference has enveloped the West.
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I don't think this is far fetched at all.

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Back on topic. Maybe this is the reason there is a belief in occult attacks on the President.

Each month, thousands of witches cast a spell against Donald Trump
https://www.vox.com/2017/6/20/158303...rump-mememagic

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/441281...m-his-actions/

Seems there is a basis for the belief. I am sure HRC's west coast coven has a leadership role.
There is NO basis. These articles just demonstrate more BULL and absurdities and superstitions of goblins and warlocks, literal minded knee jerk black/white, good versus evil that is the downfall of all religions.

As I said ouija boards and blacl cats do not make a cogent argument.

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