Democrats launch campaign to change Constitution, abolish Electoral College

[xtb]

Well, that didn't take long. 2A, DC and PR statehood should be coming up soon.

https://www.wnd.com/2021/01/democrat...toral-college/

[jay68802]

And this guy can say this with a straight face.

"Rep. Steve Cohen, D-Tenn., claims that the "development of mass media and the internet has made information about Presidential candidates easily accessible to United States citizens across the country and around the world,".

[garyscpa]

He should stIck to fried chicken.

[Actor]

Constitutional amendments have to be ratified by 3/4 of the states. Ratification by 38 states would be needed. If DC and PR become states 39 would be needed. The EC favors the GOP who could easily block ratification.

The Electoral College may eventually be abolished but it won't be any time soon.

[davew]

Joe wants to give citizenship for the 20 million + 'dreamers' as soon as possible

[Marshall Bennett]

What difference does it make, they'd rig the election anyway, knowing now it comes with virtually no risk. They'll grab whatever power they desire, nothing's standing in their way.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett

What difference does it make, they'd rig the election anyway, knowing now it comes with virtually no risk. They'll grab whatever power they desire, nothing's standing in their way.

Yes, now that they know courts are very reluctant to "disenfranchise" legal and illegal votes alike, they will act with impunity. This is what happens when justice is perverted.

[ultracapper]

The electoral college is part and parcel within a republic form of government. Only those that don't understand the logic of it, or can gain politically, endorse it's end. It's one of the things that separates a republic from true democracy. A republic is a superior form of government than a democracy as history has shown clearly for 2500 years. A republic gives the vocal minority a chance, whereas most democracies have either turned into mob rule or deteriorated from within. A republic gives a society a real opportunity for balance. A democracy, once headed downhill, just picks up momentum until it leads to endless civil unrest as the only outlet for the minority's grievances. It's actually been in motion in the USA for over 100 years now.

[delayjf]

Constitutional amendments have to be ratified by 3/4 of the states. Ratification by 38 states would be needed. If DC and PR become states 39 would be needed. The EC favors the GOP who could easily block ratification.

The Electoral College may eventually be abolished but it won't be any time soon.

Now there's a silver lining.

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by Actor

Constitutional amendments have to be ratified by 3/4 of the states. Ratification by 38 states would be needed. If DC and PR become states 39 would be needed. The EC favors the GOP who could easily block ratification.

The Electoral College may eventually be abolished but it won't be any time soon.

You don’t need an amendment:

“The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) is an agreement among a group of U.S. states and the District of Columbia to award all their electoral votes to whichever presidential candidate wins the overall popular vote in the 50 states and the District of Columbia. The compact is designed to ensure that the candidate who receives the most votes nationwide is elected president, and it would come into effect only when it would guarantee that outcome.[2][3] As of January 2021, it has been adopted by fifteen states and the District of Columbia. These states have 196 electoral votes, which is 36% of the Electoral College and 73% of the 270 votes needed to give the compact legal force.”

It will happen sooner than you think.

[ultracapper]

Originally Posted by TJDave

You don’t need an amendment:

“The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) is an agreement among a group of U.S. states and the District of Columbia to award all their electoral votes to whichever presidential candidate wins the overall popular vote in the 50 states and the District of Columbia. The compact is designed to ensure that the candidate who receives the most votes nationwide is elected president, and it would come into effect only when it would guarantee that outcome.[2][3] As of January 2021, it has been adopted by fifteen states and the District of Columbia. These states have 196 electoral votes, which is 36% of the Electoral College and 73% of the 270 votes needed to give the compact legal force.”

It will happen sooner than you think.

I'd love to see that list of states that have signed on to that agreement.

Blue, blue, blue, and bluer.

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by ultracapper

I'd love to see that list of states that have signed on to that agreement.

Blue, blue, blue, and bluer.

https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/state-status

[ultracapper]

Wow, there is always a way around the intentions of the Constitution's authors when they want to be gotten around.

How frustrating.

And the common citizenry never wins in these efforts.

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by ultracapper

Wow, there is always a way around the intentions of the Constitution's authors when they want to be gotten around.

How frustrating.

And the common citizenry never wins in these efforts.

Ironically, it’s the Constitution’s electoral clause that makes this effort possible.

[jay68802]

Originally Posted by TJDave

Ironically, it’s the Constitution’s electoral clause that makes this effort possible.

Ironically, the authors of the constitution realized that stupid people with stupid ideas, are still stupid.