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View Poll Results: Do you intend to get the COVID-19 vaccine when available?
NO - I’m Phase 1 7 11.48%
NO - I’m Phase 2 10 16.39%
NO - I’m Phase 3 11 18.03%
YES - I’m Phase 1 6 9.84%
YES - I’m Phase 2 20 32.79%
YES - I’m Phase 3 7 11.48%
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Old 05-08-2021, 10:51 AM   #241
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Exclusive: 57 leading scientists, doctors, and public policy experts call for IMMEDIATE HALT to Covid vaccine programs

This may be the most important document ever written about the Covid-19 vaccines.

https://noqreport.com/2021/05/08/57-...cine-programs/

A long read, but an eye-opening one. So many questions need real answers.
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Old 05-09-2021, 01:02 PM   #242
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CDC: As many people have died from Covid-19 vaccines as ALL vaccines in last 20 years COMBINED

https://conservativeplaybook.com/202...ears-combined/

You won't get this inconvenient truth anywhere from the lamestream media.
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Old 05-09-2021, 03:46 PM   #243
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CDC: As many people have died from Covid-19 vaccines as ALL vaccines in last 20 years COMBINED

https://conservativeplaybook.com/202...ears-combined/

You won't get this inconvenient truth anywhere from the lamestream media.
yes, but how many has it saved?
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yes, but how many has it saved?
True.
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Old 05-09-2021, 04:50 PM   #245
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yes, but how many has it saved?
We'll never know. After all, the covid mortality rate is very low, as it is.
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Old 05-10-2021, 01:22 PM   #246
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US Supreme Court: Pfizer, Moderna May OWN Your Genes If You Get Jab

Here's the bottom line:

Yes, this article contains a lot of scientific and legal mumbo-jumbo. But in a nutshell, biotechnology companies can own living things if said things are genetically-modified and not naturally-occurring. No mouse is born in nature like the OncoMouse. It is thus patentable. Oil-eating bacteria come from genetic manipulation, thus patentable.

Notice how all these so-called doctors and scientists avoid pointing fingers at Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson et al. when someone dies within hours, days or weeks of receiving their shots. It’s almost as if they are carefully navigating the trademark and patent landscape. Moderna owns several mRNA patents. But doctors and hospitals wanting a piece of the mRNA pie cannot bite the hand that feeds them.


https://principia-scientific.com/us-...f-you-get-jab/
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Old 05-13-2021, 10:27 PM   #247
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Here's something strange...

I couldn't find one source on the internet that has compared the rate of "serious adverse events" among the three COVID vaccines available right now in the USA (Pfizer/Moderna/J&J).

Isn't that odd?

So I tried it myself using the CDC VAERS database

https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html

It seems the J&J vaccine wins this battle.

The problem I had was, the source I was using for total number of vaccines given in the USA for each of the three shots, didn't specify whether the numbers for Pfizer and Moderna included one or both doses (these two vaccines require two doses, J&J only requires one).

If both doses counted as one "shot" in the data I was looking at, J&J won by a country mile.

If you divide the numbers in half for Pfizer & Moderna, J&J still won, but it was much closer.

Has anyone else looked into this? Or know of a source who has? I would love to see reliable numbers.
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Old 05-13-2021, 10:34 PM   #248
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I am feeling normal after 7 days from my JJ shot. Knocked me down for 3 days.
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Old 05-14-2021, 10:34 AM   #249
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In Mostly Vaccinated America, May 2021 Covid Cases are 47.4% HIGHER than May 2020

That's not how vaccines are supposed to work.

https://noqreport.com/2021/05/14/in-...than-may-2020/

You think?
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Old 05-15-2021, 06:41 PM   #250
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Here's something strange...

I couldn't find one source on the internet that has compared the rate of "serious adverse events" among the three COVID vaccines available right now in the USA (Pfizer/Moderna/J&J).

Isn't that odd?

So I tried it myself using the CDC VAERS database

https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html

It seems the J&J vaccine wins this battle.

The problem I had was, the source I was using for total number of vaccines given in the USA for each of the three shots, didn't specify whether the numbers for Pfizer and Moderna included one or both doses (these two vaccines require two doses, J&J only requires one).

If both doses counted as one "shot" in the data I was looking at, J&J won by a country mile.

If you divide the numbers in half for Pfizer & Moderna, J&J still won, but it was much closer.

Has anyone else looked into this? Or know of a source who has? I would love to see reliable numbers.
Looks like, as of today, there has been 270 million doses administered — 9.6M have been J&J, 116M Moderna and 145M Pzizer. So J&J has been 3.5% of the total (9.6/270).

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

The CDC VAERS database only takes into account who has died/hospitalized/etc. after receiving a dose of a vaccine.

I ran it for “hospitalizations after receiving a vaccine.” The time interval after the vaccine doesn’t matter. It could be 1 day or 120 days. Doesn’t matter whether you received the first or second dose of Moderna or Pizer.

COVID19 (COVID19 (JANSSEN)) 1,470 - 12%
COVID19 (COVID19 (MODERNA)) 5,093 - 43%
COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) 5,480 - 45%

Total 12,043 people hospitalized after receiving one of these a vaccines.
So if you take into account that a lot more Moderna/Pfizer vaccines have been given than J&J.

Calculating the odds of being hospitalized:
COVID19 (COVID19 (JANSSEN)) 9.6M / 1,470 = 6,531 to 1
COVID19 (COVID19 (MODERNA)) 116M/ 5,093 = 22,776 to 1
COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) 145M / 5,480 = 26,460 to 1

So you are 22,776 / 6,531 or around 3.5 times more likely to get hospitalized after a JANSSEN shot vs. a MODERNA. However since you need two MODERNA shots that number is cut in half.

As for the Pziser, 26,460 / 6,531 or around 4.0 times more likely to get hospitalized after a JANSSEN shot vs. a Pziser. Again you would need to cut it in half since you need two Pzisers.

https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html

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Should people getting vaccinations be worried about altering their innate immune response?


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