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10-06-2015, 07:48 AM
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These Mickey-mouse 5 yard illegal contact penalties have made football totally unwatchable...at least for me. I can't even watch a game that I've bet money on.
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I hear ya! The worst thing is that about 1/3 of them are hard to see or not there. Its hard to watch and not get pissed off. And I'm talking about all the calls even when they are not against me.
Last edited by burnsy; 10-06-2015 at 07:51 AM.
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10-06-2015, 09:54 AM
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I emailed the NFL about their pass interference penalties. They must get millions of emails about it. The inconsistency and degree of errors made is unacceptable.
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10-06-2015, 11:12 AM
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clean money
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Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
KC +3.5 vs Cinci
S an Diego -7 vs Cleve Land
San Fran +7.5 vs Green Bay
Saints -3.5 vs Dal  YES 
Philly -3 vs Washington
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this is not one of those seasons that I have delusions of ability to bet NFL
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10-06-2015, 11:21 AM
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clean money
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Originally Posted by burnsy
I hear ya! The worst thing is that about 1/3 of them are hard to see or not there. Its hard to watch and not get pissed off. And I'm talking about all the calls even when they are not against me.
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Hypothetical - If there was a game or two a week with a crew who was working with the gambling enterprise and had a game where there was an incentive to provide an advantage to one team... these are yet another judgement call that provides a lot of room to do so.
On the level or not, it can dictate the way defense is played - making passing unstoppable or giving the D a green light to be physical, and the difference between a defensive holding on the route and pass interference can also be huge.
side note: These quick passes out to a back or a receiver where you've got several blockers(wr(s), TE, occasionally a lineman as well) out there setting a screen, holding defenders before the ball is even caught are starting to be very popular among playcallers. I haven't seen much correction from the referees or NFL about this.
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10-06-2015, 10:20 PM
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CIN -3.5
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10-06-2015, 10:39 PM
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My God do people have short memories. Wilson is playing behind a patchwork line, and now people would rather have Eli, Flacco and Carson Palmer? You can take those three; I'll take Wilson over them.
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10-06-2015, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pandy
I emailed the NFL about their pass interference penalties. They must get millions of emails about it. The inconsistency and degree of errors made is unacceptable.
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And this is partly why I will be watching Rangers/Blue Jays instead of Colts/Titans on Thursday.
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10-06-2015, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Valuist
My God do people have short memories. Wilson is playing behind a patchwork line, and now people would rather have Eli, Flacco and Carson Palmer? You can take those three; I'll take Wilson over them.
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I'd take Joe Flacco over Wilson without a second thought. Eli in his prime definitely - it's close today.
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10-06-2015, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pandy
I just checked Covers.com and the Steelers, who are 2-1, are 3 point underdogs against the Ravens, who are 0-3, and the Steelers are the home team. How many points is Big Ben worth? I guess a lot.
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10-06-2015, 11:41 PM
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And this is partly why I will be watching Rangers/Blue Jays instead of Colts/Titans on Thursday.
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we're actually playing the texans and despite the short week, going on the road, the injuries, turmoil, and in-fighting i think we win this game if vontae davis plays.
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10-07-2015, 01:07 AM
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we're actually playing the texans and despite the short week, going on the road, the injuries, turmoil, and in-fighting i think we win this game if vontae davis plays.
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Your Colts could easily be 0-4. Houston is a physical team, and the Colts are 0-2 against physical teams. Road teams in short weeks are up against it.
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10-07-2015, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
I'd take Joe Flacco over Wilson without a second thought. Eli in his prime definitely - it's close today.
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Let's compare the 3. Wilson has been in the league since 2012. Let's compare QB ratings, which are the single best metric to measure a QB's ability.
2015: Wilson 100.5 Eli 96.4 Flacco 80.5
2014: Wilson 95.0 Eli 92.1 Flacco 91.0
2013: Wilson 101.2 Flacco 73.1 Eli 69.4
2012: Wilson 100.0 Eli 87.2 Flacco 82.7
That's an ass whippin. Eli and Flacco aren't even remotely close.
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10-07-2015, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Valuist
Your Colts could easily be 0-4. Houston is a physical team, and the Colts are 0-2 against physical teams. Road teams in short weeks are up against it.
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you're right, we could be 0-4 but it's a lack of preparation as opposed to a lack of physicality that's beating us. and you're also right that there are several factors that are against us here but i think the key in this particular match up will be the improved play of our defensive line against the run. and with toler scheduled to return for this game i don't see houston having a chance against us through the air as long as vontae's there on the other side.
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10-09-2015, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Valuist
Let's compare the 3. Wilson has been in the league since 2012. Let's compare QB ratings, which are the single best metric to measure a QB's ability.
2015: Wilson 100.5 Eli 96.4 Flacco 80.5
2014: Wilson 95.0 Eli 92.1 Flacco 91.0
2013: Wilson 101.2 Flacco 73.1 Eli 69.4
2012: Wilson 100.0 Eli 87.2 Flacco 82.7
That's an ass whippin. Eli and Flacco aren't even remotely close.
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Those QB ratings mean little. Let's start with the fact that Flacco won the Super Bowl in 2012 season. And Wilson has played on superior teams from 2013 to 2015. Meanwhile Flacco and Eli tried to carry much weaker teams on their backs in those years. I'm not going to do much research on this now but there is a reason why Flacco and Eli threw over 100 passes more than Wilson in 2014; over 150 more in 2013; and about 140 more in 2012.
Link: http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...alse&Submit=Go
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10-09-2015, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Valuist
Let's compare the 3. Wilson has been in the league since 2012. Let's compare QB ratings, which are the single best metric to measure a QB's ability.
2015: Wilson 100.5 Eli 96.4 Flacco 80.5
2014: Wilson 95.0 Eli 92.1 Flacco 91.0
2013: Wilson 101.2 Flacco 73.1 Eli 69.4
2012: Wilson 100.0 Eli 87.2 Flacco 82.7
That's an ass whippin. Eli and Flacco aren't even remotely close.
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Wilson couldn't carry their jockstrap, way over rated.
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