Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board

Go Back   Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board > Thoroughbred Horse Racing Discussion > General Handicapping Discussion


Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old 04-27-2010, 09:42 AM   #1
Robert Goren
Racing Form Detective
 
Robert Goren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lincoln, Ne but my heart is at Santa Anita
Posts: 16,316
Simulcasting, ADWs and short odds

Has the advent of simulcasting and ADWs actually made it harder to find a horse with a decent chance to win at decent odds. I remember when you went to the track there were only 8 or 9 race to bet. Most people bet them all or at most passed one. Now days, we have our pick of a hundred race every day. Whenever a horse looks good he gets bet by people from all over. Since most smart betters are picking and choosing the races that they bet, the logical horse goes of at lower odds.
I know the way I worded this is about as clear as mud, but I hope you get the idea. JMO
__________________
Some day in the not too distant future, horse players will betting on computer generated races over the net. Race tracks will become casinos and shopping centers. And some crooner will be belting out "there used to be a race track here".
Robert Goren is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-27-2010, 10:14 AM   #2
Horseplayersbet.com
Registered User
 
Horseplayersbet.com's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,585
What has made it harder is the lack of dummy money in the pools. Over the last 30 years, basically the only ones playing the game are half decent to very good handicappers.
Gone are the rounders who play tips, or the bus loads of seniors who bet the program favorite or their favorite number.
__________________

Horseplayersbet.com is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-27-2010, 11:13 AM   #3
SMOO
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 580
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horseplayersbet.com
What has made it harder is the lack of dummy money in the pools. Over the last 30 years, basically the only ones playing the game are half decent to very good handicappers.
Gone are the rounders who play tips, or the bus loads of seniors who bet the program favorite or their favorite number.
True, most of those people are in the casino staring at machines.
SMOO is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-27-2010, 12:31 PM   #4
Overlay
 
Overlay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Posts: 7,706
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Goren
Since most smart betters are picking and choosing the races that they bet, the logical horse goes of at lower odds.
That's true, but the logical horse doesn't always win. You need to judge the actual winning chances of each horse in the field, so that you can spot and take advantage of those occasions when the public has either picked the wrong horse altogether, or else gone overboard on a logical choice, and bet it down to odds that are lower than they should be, creating value plays on other horses in the field that have a realistic shot at winning.

Last edited by Overlay; 04-27-2010 at 12:39 PM.
Overlay is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-27-2010, 12:48 PM   #5
riskman
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 2,117
Quote:
Originally Posted by Overlay
That's true, but the logical horse doesn't always win. You need to judge the actual winning chances of each horse in the field, so that you can spot and take advantage of those occasions when the public has gone overboard on an individual horse, and bet it down to odds that are lower than they should be, creating value plays on other horses in the field that have a realistic shot at winning.
Hey,Overlay stop being so logical As usual, this is very sound advice and the opportunities exist every day.
There is also no shame in dutching horses when the right conditions present itself.
__________________
We have been saddled with a government that pays lip service to the nation’s freedom principles while working overtime to shred the Constitution.
riskman is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 04-27-2010, 04:09 PM   #6
kenwoodallpromos
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 9,569
Robert;

"the logical horse goes of at lower odds.
I know the way I worded this is about as clear as mud"
I love to play against the logical choice, in the mud!!LOL!! Or of less than even odds and overworked.
__________________
http://www.myspace.com/531434141
kenwoodallpromos is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Reply





Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

» Advertisement
» Current Polls
Wh deserves to be the favorite? (last 4 figures)
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 1999 - 2023 -- PaceAdvantage.Com -- All Rights Reserved
We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program
designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.