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12-10-2011, 02:59 PM
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Someone knew something.
Im live at Tampa Bay downs.
In the 6th race Luke of York was heavy ml favorite went of as 3/5,but the winner of the race Angelofdistinction went of at 21/1.
The first 3 flashes of the board AOD was 1/5,hmmm someone knew something.Drifted up to 21/1.Luke of York off the board.
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12-10-2011, 03:05 PM
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How much money had been wagered on the eventual winner to win when the tote board opened?
How much money was in the entire win pool when the tote board opened?
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12-10-2011, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Cardus
How much money had been wagered on the eventual winner to win when the tote board opened?
How much money was in the entire win pool when the tote board opened?
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Couldnt tell you,but 3 flashes leads to about 16 minutes to post enough money in the pool.I have marked in my program twice at 1/5.LOY shouldve opened 1/5.
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12-10-2011, 03:29 PM
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Racing Form Detective
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A win pool at 16 MTP at Tampa would have about 4-5K in it.
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12-10-2011, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Casino
Im live at Tampa Bay downs.
In the 6th race Luke of York was heavy ml favorite went of as 3/5,but the winner of the race Angelofdistinction went of at 21/1.
The first 3 flashes of the board AOD was 1/5,hmmm someone knew something.Drifted up to 21/1.Luke of York off the board.
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You just read the board wrong. The eventual winner was never the favorite, let alone 1-to-5.
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12-10-2011, 03:55 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Originally Posted by EJXD2
You just read the board wrong. The eventual winner was never the favorite, let alone 1-to-5.
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I figured at least someone didn't know something. Turns out it was the guy charting odds.
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12-10-2011, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by EJXD2
You just read the board wrong. The eventual winner was never the favorite, let alone 1-to-5.
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Nope it didnt i read it wrong at all-He opened 1/5 and yes i checked with several others who marked down the first flash.Read 1/5 and bright red.And no it isnt very hard to believe.
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12-10-2011, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
I figured at least someone didn't know something. Turns out it was the guy charting odds.
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The wise guys have been wagering early money in Tampa for years just because the horse went off at 21/1 doesnt mean squat.I just heard AOD had a few thousand bet on him,hmm,i guess someone knew something,and btw the money wagered on AOD was wagered on the race before.
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12-10-2011, 06:57 PM
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don't/didn't have anything on this race...other than L.O.Y. was scratched last week from a race w/a much BIGGER purse...
Thought to myself; then why's he running here...something ain't right...didn't like any of the other's...so passed...never woulda had the winner anyways.
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12-10-2011, 08:12 PM
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PA Steward
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Originally Posted by Casino
Nope it didnt i read it wrong at all-He opened 1/5 and yes i checked with several others who marked down the first flash.Read 1/5 and bright red.And no it isnt very hard to believe.
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Actually, this should be pretty easy to prove. Lots of people here chart odds and probably can provide a screen shot...
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12-10-2011, 08:19 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Actually, this should be pretty easy to prove. Lots of people here chart odds and probably can provide a screen shot...
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I am being patient. I was thinking the same thing.
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12-10-2011, 08:50 PM
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Very likely barn money and others that knew the horse was well intended. It used to be the only chance the grooms, hotwalkers and others had to get down on a runner was early in the day. All of that barn money shows up on the first flash.
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12-10-2011, 09:11 PM
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The horse was 12-1 morning line with a third place showing in a higher purse stake. Twelve to one seems reasonable.
O.K., the horse won at odds of 21-1.
Why didn't the someone who knew something bet on the horse?
If they bet on the horse, the horse would have went off below 12-1.
Am I missing something?
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12-10-2011, 09:25 PM
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Normally I'd be able to offer more assistance on this point but the HPI site has been problematic the past few days and the betting intervals for that race are only available to me as of 7 MTP. At that point, the horse was 7-1. From there he drifted up slowly until the final minute or two when over 80% of the win money came in and he went from 10-1 to 21-1.
The OP might be correct because those opening odds at Tampa are often based on only a few hundred bucks in the win pool. And I wonder if the first flash or two could be on-track wagers only with the simulcast money being added at the next interval.
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12-10-2011, 09:25 PM
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Someone knew something.
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Originally Posted by Bullet Plane
If they bet on the horse, the horse would have went off below 12-1.
Am I missing something?
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You're possibly missing the fact that this horse might have paid $65, not $45, WITHOUT the early flash money. I expect that the original poster saw exactly what he says he saw, and somebody (horse's connections, presumably) put a couple of grand (or maybe only a couple of hundred) on the horse early.
Now another possibility is that there was a large early bet on the horse which, for one reason or another, might have been CANCELLED later.
Ocala Mike
Last edited by Ocala Mike; 12-10-2011 at 09:29 PM.
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