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08-15-2023, 03:39 PM
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Getting away from Irad for a second..from just a handicapping perspective do you lean toward forgiving or tossing What's Up Doc's race or not really?
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08-15-2023, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Believe whatever you need to.
To me, bias suggests incompetence.
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OK, we can agree to disagree on that. I do not think they are incompetent.
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08-15-2023, 08:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the little guy
I just watched it again. Torres gave up the spot when he went inside and behind one of the leaders. He seemed to realize his mistake but it was too late because Irad had already gone for the spot. Why should Irad let him have that hole? Torres could have had it prior to moving over.
Frankly, this is a bug boy vs a journeyman situation. If it wasn't Irad, all the people whose heads he inhabits wouldn't be whining.
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If 100 non-racing people were asked this question "Which sport has bug boys and journeymen?" there would be 0 correct answers.
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08-15-2023, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by porchy44
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That slump was one of the worst I have ever seen by a top Jock. and many of the losses were less than 8/5.
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08-15-2023, 10:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Track Phantom
If 100 non-racing people were asked this question "Which sport has bug boys and journeymen?" there would be 0 correct answers.
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OK, what's the point?
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08-16-2023, 12:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maddog42
That slump was one of the worst I have ever seen by a top Jock. and many of the losses were less than 8/5.
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some of those exactas pay pretty good, and some don't
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08-17-2023, 06:19 PM
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Put up in the 9th today. It is probably the right call, except the same stewards rarely ever make this call in similar situations.
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08-17-2023, 08:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Put up in the 9th today. It is probably the right call, except the same stewards rarely ever make this call in similar situations.
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Last edited by Tom; 08-17-2023 at 08:03 PM.
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08-18-2023, 12:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Put up in the 9th today. It is probably the right call, except the same stewards rarely ever make this call in similar situations.
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Well, the 6 went out about 4 paths and bumped the 1 and cost him a placing. The DQ seems consistent with what I usually see.
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08-18-2023, 02:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ranchwest
Well, the 6 went out about 4 paths and bumped the 1 and cost him a placing. The DQ seems consistent with what I usually see.
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I could find many, many worse incidents on the circuit that were left as is, but so could you if you wanted to look.
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08-18-2023, 11:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ranchwest
Well, the 6 went out about 4 paths and bumped the 1 and cost him a placing. The DQ seems consistent with what I usually see.
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The devil we know is often better than the devil we don't know. Getting taken down on a winner is way more painful than not moving up a position if you only "may" have been best.
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08-19-2023, 07:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
You think Drape has that much power eh? How's it working out so far? He's written plenty of hit pieces, hasn't he?
I guess that's one of the benefits of nobody caring much about racing anymore...they don't even read the hit pieces....  |
There's a story there, and don't think that in todays news climate that someone won't exploit it to sell a few papers or get some clicks.
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