White rural voters are a threat to democracy, so sayeth MSNBC

[woodbinepmi]

Everything is a threat to Democracy to them, it's their new 'racism' card.

[xtb]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

The best solution is an amicable divorce. The country has to be broken up into multiple parts peacefully. The main reason that can’t be done is it’s not enough for the left to build the country they want. They want to impose their Marxist socialist totalitarian Satanic hell hole on the rest of us.

That's why it will never happen peacefully, they want the whole pie. And there's no place else to go. I try to think of another country not headed in the same direction or already there and I can't think of one.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by xtb

That's why it will never happen peacefully, they want the whole pie. And there's no place else to go. I try to think of another country not headed in the same direction or already there and I can't think of one.

I agree. They have already destroyed Western Europe. Canada is even worse than the US under Trudeau. Latin America is a basket case (although Argentina is heading in the right direction now). Australia and New Zealand demonstrated how fucked up they are during Covid. China and all the countries they influence are out. The Middle East is out. That leaves Eastern Europe. The great irony is that Russia, Hungary, Romania, and some of the former Soviet countries are trying to protect their culture. The Eastern Orthodox Church (very conservative) also still has a lot of influence there. Putin is a dangerous bad guy, but in the greatest irony of all time is that the ex KGB Communist may be the best hope for saving western culture from the Marxists, totalitarians, WEF, WHO, United Nations etc…

[PaceAdvantage]

Trust No One

[ElKabong]

Originally Posted by woodbinepmi

Everything is a threat to Democracy to them, it's their new 'racism' card.

Exactly

[ElKabong]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

The best solution is an amicable divorce. The country has to be broken up into multiple parts peacefully. The main reason that can’t be done is it’s not enough for the left to build the country they want. They want to impose their Marxist socialist totalitarian Satanic hell hole on the rest of us.

I've finally seen the light, you're right. Have struggled with this since 2018. I honestly don't see a UNITED states anymore

Problems might be insurmountable.
1, the DC cabal will up their threat to tyranny/ democracy rhetoric. Military action is guaranteed
2, what about retirees or people in their 50s? Social security , bye bye. Work your entire life and watch a chunk of your retirement go to waste. GWB was right on this. Should have gone private
3, Lot of corporations in red states are based in blue state (and vice versa). How to split?
4, Taxes paid in advance by red state corps would never get those billions back. Hard to start from scratch with no funds or currency

I'd be for it. I don't depend on social security, my wife's retirement is bound to state funds. NOt federal. I'd actually come out ahead but my guess is 80-90% of people 50+ would be financially ruined. Fact is, this is a broken nation. No fix

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by ElKabong

I've finally seen the light, you're right. Have struggled with this since 2018. I honestly don't see a UNITED states anymore

Problems might be insurmountable.
1, the DC cabal will up their threat to tyranny/ democracy rhetoric. Military action is guaranteed
2, what about retirees or people in their 50s? Social security , bye bye. Work your entire life and watch a chunk of your retirement go to waste. GWB was right on this. Should have gone private
3, Lot of corporations in red states are based in blue state (and vice versa). How to split?
4, Taxes paid in advance by red state corps would never get those billions back. Hard to start from scratch with no funds or currency

I'd be for it. I don't depend on social security, my wife's retirement is bound to state funds. NOt federal. I'd actually come out ahead but my guess is 80-90% of people 50+ would be financially ruined. Fact is, this is a broken nation. No fix

You could re-route current SS deductions to the states. More productive Red States could probably pull off a better plan

[davew]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

The best solution is an amicable divorce. The country has to be broken up into multiple parts peacefully. The main reason that can’t be done is it’s not enough for the left to build the country they want. They want to impose their Marxist socialist totalitarian Satanic hell hole on the rest of us.

they could merge with CANADA

[Tom]

Lots of activity in the Amish Anarcists community lately.
This spring's Rake Fighting Tourney has been canceled.

What's going on?

[xtb]

Originally Posted by Tom

Lots of activity in the Amish Anarcists community lately.
This spring's Rake Fighting Tourney has been canceled.

What's going on?

YouTube (Short URL)

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by ElKabong

Problems might be insurmountable.
1, the DC cabal will up their threat to tyranny/ democracy rhetoric. Military action is guaranteed
2, what about retirees or people in their 50s? Social security , bye bye. Work your entire life and watch a chunk of your retirement go to waste. GWB was right on this. Should have gone private
3, Lot of corporations in red states are based in blue state (and vice versa). How to split?
4, Taxes paid in advance by red state corps would never get those billions back. Hard to start from scratch with no funds or currency

I'd be for it. I don't depend on social security, my wife's retirement is bound to state funds. NOt federal. I'd actually come out ahead but my guess is 80-90% of people 50+ would be financially ruined. Fact is, this is a broken nation. No fix

Finances are the major stumbling block.

I guess the new country would be saddled with it's share of the national debt and obligations for SS, Medicare, pensions etc... and the people would pay taxes into that new Federal government. The they could work on changing the systems any way they want.

[Tom]

This isn't the Civil War.
We live mixed together.
All of NY is not liberal.
All of Florida is not right wing.

Is haf the country supposed to pack up and move?

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by Tom

This isn't the Civil War.
We live mixed together.
All of NY is not liberal.
All of Florida is not right wing.

Is haf the country supposed to pack up and move?

Good point.

The problem we are having now is that the Federal Government is corrupt, incompetent, immoral, becoming more totalitarian and there is no escape.

If we were still running the country like it was intended, most of the power would be at the state level and we wouldn’t have some of these problems.

At the state level it would depend on how far left or right each state went. Many people and business are already leaving far left cities and states for more conservative ones. If states like FL or TX went too far to the right, you could see some movement the other way.

But the real problem is that the Feds, FBI, media, DOJ, tech industry, IRS etc… have essentially become the enemy of freedom, free markets, responsible budgets, conservative values etc…We are on an unsustainable path likely to lead to a bad outcome. if you believe in those more conservative things, you are screwed unless the pendulum starts swinging to the right and we clean house or there is a national divorce.

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

Good point.

The problem we are having now is that the Federal Government is corrupt, incompetent, immoral, becoming more totalitarian and there is no escape.

If we were still running the country like it was intended, most of the power would be at the state level and we wouldn’t have some of these problems.
If the states had too much power, you wouldn’t have a country. You’d have fifty fiefdoms. Kind of like what Texas is trying to do now. We are the United States of America, not the Divided States of America.




At the state level it would depend on how far left or right each state went. Many people and business are already leaving far left cities and states for more conservative ones. If states like FL or TX went too far to the right, you could see some movement the other way.

But the real problem is that the Feds, FBI, media, DOJ, tech industry, IRS etc… have essentially become the enemy of freedom, free markets, responsible budgets, conservative values etc…We are on an unsustainable path likely to lead to a bad outcome. if you believe in those more conservative things, you are screwed unless the pendulum starts swinging to the right and we clean house or there is a national divorce.

That so called enemy of Freedom is not the ones who are trying to take away a woman’s right to choose. They are not the ones limiting voting rights. They are not the ones censoring books and dictating gender identity. They are not trying to keep p expletive from retiring in comfort.

The inevitable result of the free market is that a small group will dominate and the majority will be left to pick up the scraps, if there are any. The free market created WalMart and destroyed small businesses. The free market allowed Big Oil and Big Pharma to price gouge and accrue obscene profits.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by mostpost

That so called enemy of Freedom is not the ones who are trying to take away a woman’s right to choose. They are not the ones limiting voting rights. They are not the ones censoring books and dictating gender identity. They are not trying to keep p expletive from retiring in comfort.

such tripe

I am happy you think this kind of stuff still sells...it shows you've fallen woefully behind in terms of strategy