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11-11-2018, 12:09 PM
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A stable world order that benefits them, not us.
If the world is unstable, it is because Europeans area idiots and cowards and not capable of taking care of themselves.
Screw them.
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Nonsense.
The global order has been set up to benefit us. This was the designed plan.
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11-11-2018, 12:13 PM
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"Fake news" and "ridiculous slant" is just your opinion. I have an opinion of my own.
I'm a citizen of America; Trump is in Paris representing America. I take Macron's criticism personally; you know, like most liberals like to defame Trump supporters (half of America) just for the mere fact that we support him...pick a couple of name-callers right from this site. Your tone of sarcasm clearly exemplifies that, as well.
I still don't know what it was that you edited in my post.
Edit: Now I do.
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You must be missing from here when our conservative brethren here express their opinions about the OBAMA supporters. Make no mistake about it...the "defaming" here flows both ways, in equal measure.
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I edited NOTHING in your post. It was a minor mistake on my part, which I have made before...and have explained here several times. Your prior post appears exactly as you wrote it.
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11-11-2018, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Nonsense.
The global order has been set up to benefit us. This was the designed plan.
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Yup.
All those American graves in France would not be there if we had just said NO to WWI.
A German victory was the best possible outcome.
For us, and no one else counts.
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11-11-2018, 12:18 PM
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Nonsense.
The global order has been set up to benefit us. This was the designed plan.
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Naw. The U.S. is the "world's peacekeeper" for altruistic reasons...
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11-11-2018, 12:20 PM
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Yup.
All those American graves in France would not be there if we had just said NO to WWI.
A German victory was the best possible outcome.
For us, and no one else counts.
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A German WWII victory WOULD have been the best possible outcome...for some of America's largest corporations.
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11-11-2018, 12:26 PM
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A German WWII victory WOULD have been the best possible outcome...for some of America's largest corporations.
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That may be trues, but if that is all you look at, then you miss the big picture.
No WWII?
No Cold War?
No Iron Curtain?
50+ million less bodies by 1945?
If we had stayed home, I doubt we would have had as much influence to really benefit our corporations.
But that is a nice fall back view.
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11-11-2018, 12:29 PM
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A German WWII victory WOULD have been the best possible outcome...for some of America's largest corporations.
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Perhaps for arms dealers.
Not for me.
In WWII I lived in London and Mr. Adolf Schicklgruber flattened many of the houses on the street where I lived.
The NAZI's were insane cruel sadists.
A German victory would have brought about tremendous unimaginable atrocities.
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11-11-2018, 12:38 PM
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Perhaps for arms dealers.
Not for me.
In WWII I lived in London and Mr. Adolf Schicklgruber flattened many of the houses on the street where I lived.
The NAZI's were insane cruel sadists.
A German victory would have brought about tremendous unimaginable atrocities.
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I had no idea you're in your 80's....BTW, when did you move to the US?
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11-11-2018, 12:41 PM
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1947.
I'm not yet 80. I was a child in WWII.
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11-11-2018, 12:45 PM
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Perhaps for arms dealers.
Not for me.
In WWII I lived in London and Mr. Adolf Schicklgruber flattened many of the houses on the street where I lived.
The NAZI's were insane cruel sadists.
A German victory would have brought about tremendous unimaginable atrocities.
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Point being, though, that Germany losing WWII was a major reason Hitler was allowed to come to power. Russia would not have been invaded and would not have taken over Eastern Europe.
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11-11-2018, 12:47 PM
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1947.
I'm not yet 80. I was a child in WWII.
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Thought you were talking about the "Blitz" and other bombing runs on London, that took place between 7/10/1940 and 06/06/1941.....Would make you 2-3 years old and at least 80....My bad.
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11-11-2018, 12:52 PM
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I was a child and lived in Lewisham, London through the Blitz.
V1 and V2 and other bombs were dropped on the citizenry unmercifully.
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11-11-2018, 12:58 PM
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Point being, though, that Germany losing WWII was a major reason Hitler was allowed to come to power. Russia would not have been invaded and would not have taken over Eastern Europe.
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Hitler came to power well prior to WWII and well before losing it.
He came to power because after WWI the reparations that Germany had to pay for WWI they were broke. Inflation made their money worthless. He was a madman who promised the Germans a place in the sun. They took the bait not realizing the evil that he was up to.
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11-11-2018, 01:03 PM
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Hitler came to power well prior to WWII and well before losing it.
He came to power because after WWI the reparations that Germany had to pay for WWI they were broke. Inflation made their money worthless. He was a madman who promised the Germans a place in the sun. They took the bait not realizing the evil that he was up to.
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When did the German citizens finally get an inkling of the evil that Hitler was up to?
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11-11-2018, 01:04 PM
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Naw. The U.S. is the "world's peacekeeper" for altruistic reasons...
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I know you're joking but the Global Power system that the United States has put in place and been fostering since the beginning of the Post-War era is designed to ensure American Supremacy.
What Trump is doing is actively destroying that system... simply because it gets his base fired up.
This is the guy that said Europe needs to militarize and then when the French President says Europe should militarize gets all butthurt about it.
Its safe to say 95% of what Trump does is devoid of any logical policy pursuit and just done because it sounds good to his Red Hat Supporters.
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