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Old 10-03-2018, 06:03 PM   #46
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If we were talking about something like sports-betting, then a "blank slate" might be preferable for a total beginner...because our team sporting events have become part of the fabric of our society, and the interest in them is already implanted in all of us. But horse racing has gotten removed from the American sports-scene to the extent where the vast majority of the "interested beginners" know next to NOTHING about the game. Where but to the well-meaning advice of a misinformed friend can the total novice turn for any direction about this game, if he refuses to read an introductory-level handicapping book? How can he even realize on his own what sort of "individual effort" is necessary for the endeavor? No...he shouldn't believe everything that he reads in such a book...just as he wouldn't fully believe what he reads in any OTHER book. But I have a hard time believing that the interested beginner would be better off following his own "instincts"...instead of picking up a decent introductory book on handicapping.
Give me a list of must know items for horse racing. And which book will provide such information free from opinion?
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Old 10-03-2018, 06:08 PM   #47
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I already did that.

What else do you want?

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I agree with that.

Pick your poison and next read Handicapping Magic.
And how better is Handicappinbt Magic over RDSS software? And yes I do agree with my own opinion.
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I already did that.

What else do you want?
Really? Money Secrets at the Track, and Handicapping Magic?

It is a gambling game. You need to know what constitutes a winning bet, what bets are available, the cost of a bet and how the payoffs are determined.
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Old 10-03-2018, 06:44 PM   #50
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Give me a list of must know items for horse racing. And which book will provide such information free from opinion?
I'll do that after you place yourself in the position of the absolute beginner...so you can narrate for me what your first steps in the game would be. How would you proceed if you didn't even know what is meant by words such as "class", "speed" or 'pace'?
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I think I'll just stand on what I just said AndyC.

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I'll do that after you place yourself in the position of the absolute beginner...so you can narrate for me what your first steps in the game would be. How would you proceed if you didn't even know what is meant by words such as "class", "speed" or 'pace'?
All 3 of those terms are meaningless and not needed. My first steps as an intelligent gambler but absolute beginner in racing would be to observe and compile data.

If you asked every person on this forum to define class, speed and pace I doubt that there would be much agreement. To bias a beginner with someones beliefs regarding such terms may not be at all productive.
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All 3 of those terms are meaningless and not needed. My first steps as an intelligent gambler but absolute beginner in racing would be to observe and compile data.
And if the absolute beginner isn't as "intelligent" as you are?
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I know nothing and I see nothing.

Furthermore, I don't take advice.
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I know nothing...
Who can argue with you, when you make sense?
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Please refer to Socrates.

Did I ever mention my minor was in Philosophy?

Good Luck.

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And if the absolute beginner isn't as "intelligent" as you are?
Surely you would agree that to be a successful gambler you will need at least a modicum of intelligence. There is no pathway to success with stupidity.
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Surely you would agree that to be a successful gambler you will need at least a modicum of intelligence. There is no pathway to success with stupidity.
True that. Thought I was getting advice and not a debate between Donald trump and Hilary Clinton!
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I think I'll just stand on what I just said AndyC.
If that were the case you would be floating.
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True that. Thought I was getting advice and not a debate between Donald trump and Hilary Clinton!
Advice is as plentiful as air. Good advice may not be easy to discern and may not become apparent until many years later.
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