Rankings of presidents updated to include guess who.

[Tom]

The only choice in the poll who has not yet complete his term.
Your knowledge of polls is frighteningly low.

But then again, you supported the dummy 0bama getting the NPP based on 0 accomplishments, just blather.

You make less and less sense as you go.
I hope you dropped bread crumbs to find your way back to reality.

[hcap]

Tom, I said:

I will grant you it is early in Trump's term to conclude how bad he is, but many republicans and conservatives dislike him as well.

Problem for waiting to to end of his term, is we may not get much more of his term

[Tom]

Obsession is such a sad thing, yet so damn funny to watch live!

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by hcap

As I said no matter the ratio of liberals to conservatives, that does not mean automatically this and other studies where liberals predominate are wrong.

Granted, the poll is not "wrong" as long as it is correctly identified as a short-run popularity poll of pointy-headed, ivory tower, politically-correct, left-wing academics, the majority of whom have little or no experience in the private sector.

I will grant you it is early in Trump's term to conclude how bad he is, but many republicans and conservatives dislike him as well.

None of which is relative to the stated criteria of the poll, presidential greatness. Lincoln was not particularly popular at the time, but is great in terms of his impact on the nation. I would say that the greatness, or lack thereof, of a president cannot be objectively considered withing his lifetime. To even discuss it while he is still in office is inane.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Granted, the poll is not "wrong" as long as it is correctly identified as a short-run popularity poll of pointy-headed, ivory tower, politically-correct, left-wing academics, the majority of whom have little or no experience in the private sector

Ugh, these Pointy headed ivory tower dwelling biassed liberals are not all wrong.

Speak about not politically correct why don't ya?


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0fdb2aa558b56

President Donald Trump paid tribute to fallen soldiers on Memorial Day with a tweet applauding the state of the country under his administration.

Trump praised the current unemployment rate for African-Americans and Hispanics, as well as the “best economy in decades” ― two areas that began steadily improving under the Obama administration.

“Those who died for our great country would be very happy and proud at how well our country is doing today,” Trump tweeted Monday.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by hcap

Ugh, these Pointy headed ivory tower dwelling biassed liberals are not all wrong.

So to recap hcap, a poll with an admitted leftist bias on a topic that is wildly premature to discuss finds that liberal academics think Trump sucks. Who knew?

And hcap thinks that they are right, not because the poll has any validity or utility as such, but because he shares their conclusion that Trump sucks. Not because of Trump's policies (some of which actually do suck), but because Trump has a big mouth and a big ego.

[dnlgfnk]

Nate Silver's people knew...

" Perhaps the most systematic analysis of partisanship in presidential rankings to date was done by Joseph Uscinski and Arthur Simon. They found that expert rankings of Democratic presidents are consistently higher — and those of Republicans lower — than the determinations of the general public"...

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-assess-trump/

I voted third party.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Clocker

So to recap hcap, a poll with an admitted leftist bias on a topic that is wildly premature to discuss finds that liberal academics think Trump sucks. Who knew?

And hcap thinks that they are right, not because the poll has any validity or utility as such, but because he shares their conclusion that Trump sucks. Not because of Trump's policies (some of which actually do suck), but because Trump has a big mouth and a big ego.

According to your skewed conservative view, college educated critics of political actors and sociological and historical views are biased due to some magical mysterious reason. As I mentioned perhaps Karl Marx or Saul Alinsky "brainwashed" these college professors.

There is a more likely reason. More educated individuals are naturally more liberal. So you are essentially ruling out education as a political bias. Maybe those with postgraduate degrees in the humanities (most of the participants in the Trump is dirt survey) the are just more representative (smarter liberals) than the fewer conservatives who were involved.....By contrast, among the majority of adults who do not have a college degree (72% of the public in 2015), far fewer express liberal opinions.

A Wider Ideological Gap Between More and Less Educated Adults
http://www.people-press.org/2016/04/...ucated-adults/

Highly educated adults – particularly those who have attended graduate school – are far more likely than those with less education to take predominantly liberal positions across a range of political values. And these differences have increased over the past two decades.

....More than half of those with postgraduate experience (54%) have either consistently liberal political values (31%) or mostly liberal values (23%), based on an analysis of their opinions about the role and performance of government, social issues, the environment and other topics. Fewer than half as many postgrads – roughly 12% of the public in 2015– have either consistently conservative (10%) or mostly conservative (14%) values. About one-in-five (22%) express a mix of liberal and conservative opinions.

[hcap]

Then again, it does not take a rocket scientist to understand why Trump sucks.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

Seriously every liberal I know well sees the Kennedys as something to be held in very high regard and JFK was the king of that crop. Of the Democratic presidents after JFK they put Bill Clinton as they best of that group. Most of them only credit Obama with being a good speaker and being the first black president of the USA, while giving him an open book of excuses for not accomplishing much due to the state of the union when he took office.

Originally Posted by hcap

I have no problem with specific rankings of Democratic presidents, or many Republican presidents

Just though the abysmal showing of Trump was interesting. I would not discount that abysmal conclusion based on specific rankings of other presidents.

So basically in your views anyone who makes even one statement you agree with you will take it as gospel and fact even if everything else they come up with is proven to be nonsense or lies. Any poll that ranks Obama above JFK as a president should get immediately tossed as nonsense.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by dnlgfnk

Nate Silver's people knew...

" Perhaps the most systematic analysis of partisanship in presidential rankings to date was done by Joseph Uscinski and Arthur Simon. They found that expert rankings of Democratic presidents are consistently higher — and those of Republicans lower — than the determinations of the general public"...

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-assess-trump/

I voted third party.

Not one thing in that article about how Obama was ranked 8th. That is the most baffling thing on the list.

[davew]

Originally Posted by BELMONT 6-6-09

History will reveal the entire OBAMA mess and it will reflect on his Anti-American agenda. He can run but he can't hide!!!

Yes, but he did a great job trying to dismantle the constitution and promoting the muslim brotherhood agenda.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

Not one thing in that article about how Obama was ranked 8th. That is the most baffling thing on the list.

You must be deliberately ignoring the tremendous success and benefits of ObamaCare, the crown jewel in the Obama legacy. That and the Nobel Prize will surely put Obama on Mt. Rushmore once his greatness is acknowledged by history.

[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by lamboguy

Obama was a great orator (great bullshit artist). Trump is turning out to be a great president because he gets the job done through distractions.

whether Trump keeps himself out of jackpot's is another story that will be answered at a much later date.

Great presidents aren't below the mendoza line in approval ratings.

Todays Rasmussen is 48.

Allan

[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by Clocker

You must be deliberately ignoring the tremendous success and benefits of ObamaCare, the crown jewel in the Obama legacy. That and the Nobel Prize will surely put Obama on Mt. Rushmore once his greatness is acknowledged by history.

How bout the DACA EO. Thats a nice legacy.....

Pure genius.

Allan