 |
|
10-26-2018, 09:54 AM
|
#181
|
|
The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 112,887
|
Yup.
And Trump is so dumb..... 
This has nothing at all to do with seeking refuge.
They are in Mexico already - no one is killing then there.
They are coming here to get on our welfare roles.
Whatever it take to keep them out.
__________________
Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
|
|
|
|
10-26-2018, 10:26 AM
|
#182
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 46,884
|
The Behind the Scences Story
The Deep Stater Undermining Trump in Central America
Obama apparatchik still meddles in, wants to run Guatemala
https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-de...a_2700311.html
No surprises here. Trump should have made a concerted effort to clean house as soon as he took office to get rid of the Obama garbage.
__________________
Consistent profits can only be made on the basis of analysis that is far from obvious to the majority. - anonymous guru
|
|
|
|
|
10-26-2018, 11:14 AM
|
#183
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,176
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
This caravan is fear-mongering for votes.
Republicans are stronger on immigration than Democrats so it would make sense with an election looming and numbers looking bad to focus on immigration. Its a smart strategy for Trump and the Republicans because Democrats don't really have a message on immigration and Republicans do.
Anyone who thinks/thought this was some Democrat conspiracy to shift the focus to a topic the electorate thinks they are weak on needs their head examined.
Why did the Caravan form now around election time?
If you've ever spent time in Mexico and Central America in the summer you'd know why they form in the spring and fall.
Its much ado about nothing but a chance for the GOP to stir the pot hoping to shift the narrative and drum up some votes. Its the EXACT same reason they floated another tax cut a couple of weeks ago.
Democrats on the other hand should be thankful its falling apart sooner than later as they have almost no message on immigration the party can coalesce around.
Prepare for the conspiracy the Democrats are infecting the caravan to slow it down...  |
So Elys, you don't think the Democrats are capable of making a political grober schnitzer? As to the Repubs having a smart unified strategy, it would be a new occurrence. Any strategy in the last Presidential election was totally Trump, Republicans had to go along kicking and screaming all the way.
__________________
One of the downsides of the Internet is that it allows like-minded people to form communities, and sometimes those communities are stupid.
|
|
|
|
|
10-26-2018, 11:24 AM
|
#184
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,036
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whosonfirst
So Elys, you don't think the Democrats are capable of making a political grober schnitzer? As to the Repubs having a smart unified strategy, it would be a new occurrence. Any strategy in the last Presidential election was totally Trump, Republicans had to go along kicking and screaming all the way.
|
I don't know why Democrats would change their message when they're winning to a subject the electorate views them weak on.
Notice key Democrats have been pretty mum on the caravan. Yet the President broke the story with a tweet.
Nobody is "behind" the caravan... but its existence certainly helps Republicans and hurts Democrats. That's why Trump, Fox, and other anti-Immigration folks keep talking about it. Its a winning message for them. It's smart for them to talk about it.
Why would Democrats switch the discussion to something they're viewed as weak on? It makes ZERO tactical sense. But TONS of sense for Republicans.
Finally... it formed in the Fall. The other in the Spring. What migrates in the fall and the spring in the natural world? EVERYTHING. They do it because the weather is nicer and you gotta walk over a thousand miles.
Occams Razor
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 10-26-2018 at 11:25 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
10-26-2018, 11:38 AM
|
#185
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,176
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
I don't know why Democrats would change their message when they're winning to a subject the electorate views them weak on.
Notice key Democrats have been pretty mum on the caravan. Yet the President broke the story with a tweet.
Nobody is "behind" the caravan... but its existence certainly helps Republicans and hurts Democrats. That's why Trump, Fox, and other anti-Immigration folks keep talking about it. Its a winning message for them. It's smart for them to talk about it.
Why would Democrats switch the discussion to something they're viewed as weak on? It makes ZERO tactical sense. But TONS of sense for Republicans.
Finally... it formed in the Fall. The other in the Spring. What migrates in the fall and the spring in the natural world? EVERYTHING. They do it because the weather is nicer and you gotta walk over a thousand miles.
Occams Razor
|
Let's use your Occams Razor theory a bit further. During the day we see long lines of people strung out for a mile or longer walking in the hot sun. The sun goes down, and some very modern looking vans are loading up some people to be able to ride during the night. I've seen a few semis and stake body trucks as well. So an organic march materialized at this time of year before our elections, it's a possibility. Where are vans, trucks and semis in that long march during the day time? I too have spent parts of two years working in Mexico, and late model vans weren't often in my locales. Not saying it's not possible. It just doesn't pass the smell test for materialzing without outside influence. Kind of same thing on the organized bomb scares. Either way, I say let the chips fall on whomever is responsible. If Trump were smart he could make the handling of these marchers a huge win, but that would defy all logic.
__________________
One of the downsides of the Internet is that it allows like-minded people to form communities, and sometimes those communities are stupid.
|
|
|
|
|
10-26-2018, 11:48 AM
|
#186
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,036
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whosonfirst
Let's use your Occams Razor theory a bit further. During the day we see long lines of people strung out for a mile or longer walking in the hot sun. The sun goes down, and some very modern looking vans are loading up some people to be able to ride during the night. I've seen a few semis and stake body trucks as well. So an organic march materialized at this time of year before our elections, it's a possibility. Where are vans, trucks and semis in that long march during the day time? I too have spent parts of two years working in Mexico, and late model vans weren't often in my locales. Not saying it's not possible. It just doesn't pass the smell test for materialzing without outside influence. Kind of same thing on the organized bomb scares. Either way, I say let the chips fall on whomever is responsible. If Trump were smart he could make the handling of these marchers a huge win, but that would defy all logic.
|
If you can't answer this question:
Why would Democrats switch the discussion to something they're viewed as weak on?
The perpetrator in your scenario has no motive or thing of consequence to gain.
Who broke the Caravan story?
A hint: It goes by the twitter handle @realDonaldTrump
|
|
|
|
|
10-26-2018, 11:57 AM
|
#187
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,414
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
If you can't answer this question:
Why would Democrats switch the discussion to something they're viewed as weak on?
The perpetrator in your scenario has no motive or thing of consequence to gain.
Who broke the Caravan story?
A hint: It goes by the twitter handle @realDonaldTrump
|
why do democrats do half the stupid shit they do during election years? And of course trump would treat it. He would be the first to hear of it. Satellites you know. If they continue and trump doesn’t get the military there you can be assured that the general populace armed with those so called guns of war will meet them there.
|
|
|
|
|
10-26-2018, 12:14 PM
|
#188
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 22,655
|
ely, what is the democrat message?
|
|
|
|
10-26-2018, 12:42 PM
|
#189
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,036
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by davew
ely, what is the democrat message?
|
They don't have one...
So why would they bring that fact up funding a caravan?
|
|
|
|
|
10-26-2018, 03:39 PM
|
#190
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 30,398
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by davew
ely, what is the democrat message?
|
This Dem, dump Trump and ignore his conspiracy minded toadies
|
|
|
|
|
10-26-2018, 04:03 PM
|
#191
|
|
The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 112,887
|
It did so well for them in 2016.
__________________
Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
|
|
|
|
|
10-26-2018, 04:05 PM
|
#192
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 30,398
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
It did so well for them in 2016. |
Chumpy seduced the weak minded. Sad I know
|
|
|
|
|
10-26-2018, 04:09 PM
|
#193
|
|
The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 112,887
|
__________________
Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
|
|
|
|
|
10-26-2018, 05:26 PM
|
#194
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 22,655
|
|
|
|
|
|
10-26-2018, 05:38 PM
|
#195
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,036
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by davew
|
From YOUR article:
Quote:
|
Democrats don’t want to talk about the migrant caravan. Last weekend, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer put out a joint statement accusing Trump and Republicans of being “desperate to change the subject from health care to immigration because he knows that health care is the number one issue Americans care about.”
|
Yet you contend they are behind it?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|
