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03-26-2023, 10:12 PM
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#121
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The conversation was about one turn routes vs two turn routes. My point was there would only be maybe three races a week affected by this...and, as usual, people were making way too big a deal about it.
Is it really that hard to follow along?
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03-26-2023, 10:20 PM
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#122
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the little guy
The conversation was about one turn routes vs two turn routes. My point was there would only be maybe three races a week affected by this...and, as usual, people were making way too big a deal about it.
Is it really that hard to follow along?
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Got you.
I don't think it's a big deal for gamblers. Belmont is Belmont. I guess some people are going to miss Aqueduct. I have some great memories about AQU, but none of them recent.
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03-27-2023, 05:57 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Well. it is three races a week because they got rid of the inner dirt track.
They wanted more turf so the winter meet was sacrificed in terms od route races.
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03-28-2023, 01:12 AM
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#124
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Work is being done at Belmont Park.
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04-03-2023, 06:39 AM
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#125
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https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...t-construction
I'm excited. Can't wait to see what the completed changes look like in a couple of years or so... also grateful that I was able to visit AQ twice over the years when in NY since it'll be gone pretty soon...
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04-04-2023, 06:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by $w1fT
Do horseplayers want this and will be eager to bet it? None that I talk to.
Have the NY horseman been clamoring for this? I genuinely don’t know the answer to this. I know the Kentucky horsemen will keep their horses at Turfway for the winter and i still see the top NY turf trainers shipping their horses to FLA for the winter.
Do the politicians and activists insist on a synthetic surface? I’m sure they did although I can’t confirm.
Will NYRA will go the way of gulfstream and say they’ll only card these races in the spring/fall in off the turf scenarios and then reverse course? We’ll see.
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yet handle was way up at the recently concluded all synthetic turfway meet.
someone is betting the product.
Allan
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04-04-2023, 02:16 PM
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SaratogaFan1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
yet handle was way up at the recently concluded all synthetic turfway meet.
someone is betting the product.
Allan
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If you can’t understand the difference between the Turfway product and the future Belmont product with synthetic than I won’t argue with you…
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04-04-2023, 02:59 PM
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#128
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clean money
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Quote:
Originally Posted by $w1fT
If you can’t understand the difference between the Turfway product and the future Belmont product with synthetic than I won’t argue with you…
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Turfway running a 10 horse field with several pace elements and a Belmont race with 6 horses including an uncoupled entry and between the short field and the closely knit colony, can get some frustrating pace models&results.
It's tough to get the significant flawed favorite with a keyable non-favorite, & w/ enough models moving in your direction at Turfway,
but in Belmont's synth races it's easier to see the right moving parts, but I have to wait a while for the prices to fit.
I don't like how Toyota Camry brought out a new model back in 2025.
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04-04-2023, 07:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
I don't like how Toyota Camry brought out a new model back in 2025.
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I always knew you were a time travelling Space Cadet....
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04-05-2023, 10:37 AM
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#130
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Quote:
Originally Posted by $w1fT
If you can’t understand the difference between the Turfway product and the future Belmont product with synthetic than I won’t argue with you…
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bettors will not be fearful of betting belmont synthetic racing is my prediction.
Allan
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04-05-2023, 01:35 PM
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Out-of-town Jasper
Join Date: Nov 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
bettors will not be fearful of betting belmont synthetic racing is my prediction.
Allan
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You have a strong bias towards synthetic surfaces, which you likely fail to account for when making such predictions. So, if I paid attention to any such predictions, and I don't, it wouldn't be yours.
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04-06-2023, 06:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by therussmeister
You have a strong bias towards synthetic surfaces, which you likely fail to account for when making such predictions. So, if I paid attention to any such predictions, and I don't, it wouldn't be yours.
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did people stop betting in florida when they constructed synthetics.
its only losing handicappers who dont like synthetics, my advice is dont bet if you dont like a surface.
hows that dirt racing in california doing since the switch back to dirt.
unbetable 5 horse fields.
synthetic in new york will do wonder for field sizes in off the turfers.
Allan
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04-06-2023, 12:25 PM
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#133
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
did people stop betting in florida when they constructed synthetics.
Allan
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It hasn't been pretty numbers wise.
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04-06-2023, 08:10 PM
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#134
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Is Churchill planning to have turf races in their upcoming Spring Meet? Or does the new grass need ANOTHER six months to settle in?
Seeing the condition of the Churchill & Fair Grounds turf courses recently, maybe CDI should rip both of them up and replace with Tapeta.
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04-07-2023, 12:47 AM
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[QUOTE=biggestal99;2868655]
did people stop betting in florida when they constructed synthetics.
Yes they did, handle was down more than 25% during their 2021-2022 ChampionshiT meet, don’t have the figures for 2022-2023 but it’s probably down a lot from what they handled pretapita .
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