Paris Burns

[snappit]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

But but he arrestested hundreds of unarmed protesters to keep the cities safe
and they were watching and well aware of this jihadi and he just managed to slip through their web.

E. Micron up for no confidence vote along with May and Merkel whose terms are sure to soon end.

Big difference in the confidence votes.

The French one is a vote of confidence in the government led by Macron by other parties in the French parliament. As his party has a healthy majority and the support of other parties the confidence vote is sure to fail.


The confidence vote for May is confidence in her leadership of her own party by her own fellow Conservative MP's. It looks like she will win and will continue as PM. The vote has just taken place and will be announced in about 30 minutes. If she loses there will be a leadership election within the Tory party and the winner will be the new Prime Minister but the Tories will stay in power.

There is a chance that the Labour party may table a motion of no confidence in the government soon. It would be close but I don't think it will succeed.

[snappit]

May has won her confidence vote. Under the rules of her party they can't bring another confidence vote in her leadership for a year.

Interesting to see if the Labour Party attempt a vote of no confidence in the government in an attempt to bring it down and force a general election.

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by snappit

May has won her confidence vote. Under the rules of her party they can't bring another confidence vote in her leadership for a year.

Interesting to see if the Labour Party attempt a vote of no confidence in the government in an attempt to bring it down and force a general election.

Glad she won.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by snappit

Of course the tiny flaw in your statement is that the man was French and born in Strasbourg.

that guy has a weird story............. but very dangerous

[Buckeye]

There is a BIG difference between the accused is innocent until proven guilty and the Napoleonic Code established in 1804, which basically says the opposite.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

Glad she won.

Yes - always nice when the choice of the PEOPLE wins out.
That vote of confidence is crap.
It's like, yes you have the right to vote, but WE have the right decide who really wins.

Kind of what the dems want here!

[Buckeye]

Very true Tom.

It doesn't matter who wins.

It matters how the votes are counted.

Ask Joseph Stalin.

[Tom]

Shooter killed by police in a shootout.

[sammy the sage]

Originally Posted by Buckeye

Very true Tom.

It doesn't matter who wins.

It matters how the votes are counted.

Ask Joseph Stalin.

or Mark Twain...

[Buckeye]

And therein lies the argument for free and fair elections.

See, we do agree every once in awhile.

[snappit]

Originally Posted by Tom

Yes - always nice when the choice of the PEOPLE wins out.
That vote of confidence is crap.
It's like, yes you have the right to vote, but WE have the right decide who really wins.

Kind of what the dems want here!

Very wrong and a clear misunderstanding of how things work. Theresa May was NOT the choice of the PEOPLE. We do not elect Prime Ministers here. We elect local members of parliament in our own constituency. May was elected as an MP by her local constituency as are all the 650 MP's. Each political party elects their leader and that person becomes Prime Minister if that party forms the government. May took over as PM when Cameron resigned after getting us in this mess when her party elected her following his resignation. All that happened was May faced a no confidence vote from her own party and only they took part. The same happened when Blair resigned during the middle of Labour's term of government and Labour elected Brown as leader and so Brown became PM. Similar when Thatcher faced a vote of no confidence (that she would have lost) from her own party in the middle of a term of government and resigned and the Tories elected Major as leader and so he became PM. If a PM resigns or is ousted we don't have an election, the party in power continues just with a new leader who becomes PM.

Although I don't like May or the party she represents I do feel a bit sorry for her. She was left the impossible situation of sorting out this mess when the people who got us into it cut and run and are now stabbing her in the back. May never wanted us to leave the EU and was a remain supporter. The other thing I will give her credit for is she has been very dignified in the face of all this, no bleating to the press, no rants on twitter, no abuse of the people who voted against her. She won the vote and just got on with things. That said she has been very wounded by this with a third of her own MP's saying they don't have confidence in her.


Hard to know what will now happen. Doubtful she will get the deal with the EU through parliament. This could now mean the Labour party will bring a vote of no confidence in the government and try and take power and force a general election. The Conservatives are only just clinging to power, they don't have an overall majority and are only keeping power with the help of the DUP. The other options if she can't get the deal through is put it back in the hands of the people with another referendum or the disaster of leaving without a deal. We are due to leave in March and the clock is ticking. A right mess.

[Tom]

Very wrong and a clear misunderstanding of how things work.

My mistake.
I was under the impression Britain had evolved much more that it apparently has.

[davew]

Originally Posted by Buckeye

There is a BIG difference between the accused is innocent until proven guilty and the Napoleonic Code established in 1804, which basically says the opposite.

maybe they saved a big long trial with the shoot-out

[Tom]

Originally Posted by davew

maybe they saved a big long trial with the shoot-out

Good plan.

[snappit]

Originally Posted by Tom

My mistake.
I was under the impression Britain had evolved much more that it apparently has.

No, just similar to most other countries who have a prime minister.