Why I hate TVG

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by Canarsie

A few things need to be pointed out here and by no means do I consider myself a huge fan of TVG economic wise.

1. They pay to be aired on cable otherwise there would be no TVG. It's the reason HRTV has limited distribution in most cases they refuse to pay.

2. They will have to pay even more to get broadcast in HD. The cable and satellite networks will hold them hostage for as much money they can get. It's the main reason the screen looks like crap during a race. I have watched TVG on MSG+ and its perfecto.

3. Certain racetracks can demand contractual obligation to air each and every race live. Mainly it the California tracks but that's where most of their income comes from. While I think showing a $10,000 maiden claimer over a stake is way over the top the signature on the contract says different. If I recall correctly TVG and NYRA had a dispute quite a few years back and NYRA wouldn't back down. They had the hammer and used it that''s part of the business world.

4. When they cut to commercials right before of after a race its due to the fact the the cable company gets 'x" amount of minutes per hour and basically when. Refusing to comply would violate the term of the contract I have no idea what the penalty might be.

5. There's a reason HRTV shows other types of racing and it's all about the money. If they could make more showing night racing they surely would.

When push comes to shove what would you rather have? A compromised TVG or no racing channel at all?

Good post, i know what you're saying that something is better than nothing, and its ok how they run things, we would all "go after the money" but to me, i haven't seen that they are behaving in a way that suggests the money comes first and the racing fan comes second. Their hosts need to tone down the arrogance because if you take the money first, you can't have it both ways, you're essentially a parasite on the game when you don't put the game and the customers first.

They need to just be honest that they don't put the game first.

[Canarsie]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

Good post, i know what you're saying that something is better than nothing, and its ok how they run things, we would all "go after the money" but to me, i haven't seen that they are behaving in a way that suggests the money comes first and the racing fan comes second. Their hosts need to tone down the arrogance because if you take the money first, you can't have it both ways, you're essentially a parasite on the game when you don't put the game and the customers first.

They need to just be honest that they don't put the game first.

I can't stand some of the hosts (pointless to name them) just like you. But the reality is there is a specific reason they wear an earpiece. It's the producers telling them what to do and if they don't follow instructions there probably is hell to pay all the way to the UK. It probably is the main reason that the "rah rah" ones are still with the network while the "progressives" are let go.

[Fingal]

Originally Posted by Canarsie

I can't stand some of the hosts (pointless to name them) just like you. But the reality is there is a specific reason they wear an earpiece. It's the producers telling them what to do and if they don't follow instructions there probably is hell to pay all the way to the UK. It probably is the main reason that the "rah rah" ones are still with the network while the "progressives" are let go.

This is the one thing about TVG that I notice, the number of on air talent that has been bounced because either they didn't fit the profile or they had the opportunity to move on .

[Shelby]

Does Greg Wolf not work at TVG anymore? Haven't seen him for a while.

[Fingal]

Not sure, but his bio is still on the TVG website. He was named to that racing team that is on Fox Sports 1.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ing-broadcasts

[Tom]

What really bothers me the most is the totally crappy sound on TVG - like a high school graduation, where the wires are not plugged in right, continually cutting out, popping noises.....all the time. for months now.

I switch to HRTV and perfect sound.

[cj]

Originally Posted by Shelby

Does Greg Wolf not work at TVG anymore? Haven't seen him for a while.

Yes, but he is big on the college football season, think he is a studio guy for FS.

[cj]

Is it just me or is the picture and sound jumping all over today? Other channels seem fine.

[Tom]

I had to turn it off it was so bad - not watchable at times.
Like right now, the interview with CC's trainer - can't make out a single word and he looks like is shape shifting!

[Marshall Bennett]

Originally Posted by Tom

What really bothers me the most is the totally crappy sound on TVG - like a high school graduation, where the wires are not plugged in right, continually cutting out, popping noises.....all the time. for months now.

Maybe they need to move out of the garage and find a better room in the house.

[Shelby]

Originally Posted by cj

Yes, but he is big on the college football season, think he is a studio guy for FS.

Thanks

[Stillriledup]

TVG turning into Dr Phil?

Cmon guys, stick to horse racing.

[thespaah]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

TVG turning into Dr Phil?

Cmon guys, stick to horse racing.

Im forced to watch these bozos because TVG has an exclusive with Keeneland..
It's absolute torture.
I MUST use the mute button.
The man crush on horizontal bets is worse than ever.
The on camera people largely ignore handicapping a race as a standalone entity.
I realize it is the job of the producers to make it the job of the on camera people to entice people to use the TVG site to make their wagers( who are THOSE people? Does anyone on PA use TVG's ADW?) because that is revenue for the company, but for crying out loud....TVG isn't even close to being a real horse racing analysis and handicapping service.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by thespaah

Im forced to watch these bozos because TVG has an exclusive with Keeneland..
It's absolute torture.
I MUST use the mute button.
The man crush on horizontal bets is worse than ever.
The on camera people largely ignore handicapping a race as a standalone entity.
I realize it is the job of the producers to make it the job of the on camera people to entice people to use the TVG site to make their wagers( who are THOSE people? Does anyone on PA use TVG's ADW?) because that is revenue for the company, but for crying out loud....TVG isn't even close to being a real horse racing analysis and handicapping service.

They did a long segment yesterday during Keeneland about some kid with a medical condition, not sure what that had to do with horse racing, i put it on mute the minute i saw they weren't talking about horses MARONE!

[Rex Phinney]

Originally Posted by thespaah

Im forced to watch these bozos because TVG has an exclusive with Keeneland..
It's absolute torture.
I MUST use the mute button.
The man crush on horizontal bets is worse than ever.
The on camera people largely ignore handicapping a race as a standalone entity.
I realize it is the job of the producers to make it the job of the on camera people to entice people to use the TVG site to make their wagers( who are THOSE people? Does anyone on PA use TVG's ADW?) because that is revenue for the company, but for crying out loud....TVG isn't even close to being a real horse racing analysis and handicapping service.

I have to put the sound on mute also, the on air guys are so annoying and juvenile that my wife gets pissed if she has to hear it for too long. So if I must watch the races, we have to turn the sound off.

I've never known of anyone that uses the TVG ADW.