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Old 04-06-2013, 01:13 PM   #1
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the point system

i haven't been following this new format, what i was wondering about is if Philly's only run in 3yo Filly prep races, does that not count for the points to get into the open tripple crown races?
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Old 04-06-2013, 01:14 PM   #2
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Doesn't count, so that filly that ran big last weekend at GP has 0 points.
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Old 04-06-2013, 01:18 PM   #3
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Doesn't count, so that filly that ran big last weekend at GP has 0 points.
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Old 04-06-2013, 01:44 PM   #4
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Doesn't count, so that filly that ran big last weekend at GP has 0 points.
If filly's want to run in the derby they should earn the points against the boys that's the deal.... and that's the way it should be.....
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Old 04-06-2013, 01:46 PM   #5
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I like the new system, apart from the petty politics that eliminates the Illinois Derby.
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Old 04-06-2013, 01:52 PM   #6
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If filly's want to run in the derby they should earn the points against the boys that's the deal.... and that's the way it should be.....
Why?
Should Racheal have been denied entry into the Preakness?
What about that huge win last week by the filly?
I have no idea if they would wnat to, but if they decided after seeing that to try the Derby, who losed out?


The FANS.

I thought he game was supposed to be trying to get people interested in it, not run some sort of STUPID rules that fixed a situatin that was never broken.

Putting together the BEST field is all that matters.
The point sytem does not do that.
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Old 04-06-2013, 01:55 PM   #7
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If filly's want to run in the derby they should earn the points against the boys that's the deal.... and that's the way it should be.....
But if they run against the boys, no matter what happens they will get no points towards the Oaks. Do you think that is right? Even if a filly finishes 3rd in a 100 point race that doesn't guarantee a spot in the gate for the KD. Maybe the connections would have done things different back in 1980 if the point system existed then, but Genuine Risk finished 3rd in the Wood against the boys and wouldn't have qualified for the derby. Did she belong in the derby?
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The system is desinged to keep horses OUT of races.
Not a good idea.
CD should maiden its own busniess and stp being an intrusive buch of pricks towards other tracks. Maybe they should look at thier own race 0 which has become a joke of a race. 20 horses? Get real. I see the Derby as the most irrelevant race of the year. Take the 6-7 legitimate horses and put 13-14 crap horse in thier way.

The Preakness is the only triple crown race that means anything.
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Old 04-06-2013, 02:07 PM   #9
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The Preakness is the only triple crown race that means anything.
And this is where we might see the filly, Dreaming of Julia, it would be something if she wins it.
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Old 04-06-2013, 02:16 PM   #10
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The Preakness is the only triple crown race that means anything.
Actually, I would say The Belmont - when the crown is on the line.
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Old 04-06-2013, 02:41 PM   #11
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since the game has changed throughout the years, they had to make some type of a change. years ago horses ran more often, and one knocked the other one out. today horses can't run as often due to all the drugs and race prep they get, so they had to make a change to try to get the best horses in the race. the downside this year will be that DREAMING OF JULIA won't be in it. but those are the rules and we knew them ahead of time.
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Although I would like to see any genuinely deserving filly have a chance to be in the Derby, I can understand why CD would have some ambivalence toward cannibalizing the Oaks to feed the Derby when they know that the Derby will have a full field and receive massive attention and betting, regardless.
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Boys cant run in the Oaks and the girls dont need points to run in the Oaks so earn your way into the Derby......
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...the downside this year will be that DREAMING OF JULIA won't be in it. but those are the rules and we knew them ahead of time.
Who's we? Didn't you start the thread?
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The system is desinged to keep horses OUT of races.
Not a good idea.
CD should maiden its own busniess and stp being an intrusive buch of pricks towards other tracks. Maybe they should look at thier own race 0 which has become a joke of a race. 20 horses? Get real. I see the Derby as the most irrelevant race of the year. Take the 6-7 legitimate horses and put 13-14 crap horse in thier way.

The Preakness is the only triple crown race that means anything.
Wow..... Do you have any idea of which you speak ? the Preakness ? ?
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