AROGATE dilemma

[dilanesp]

Grits, I don't give a crap about the National Register of Historic Places. I want comfort, not old crap.

Old stuff gets torn down all the time. Or modified- like Churchill has been.

[dilanesp]

Originally Posted by dilanesp

Grits, I don't give a crap about the National Register of Historic Places. I want comfort, not old crap.

Old stuff gets torn down all the time. Or modified- like Churchill has been.

Actually, I thought of the best example after I posted this. Soldier Field in Chicago was a horrible, uncomfortable football stadium. It was also a "historic landmark". They took the stadium off the National Register and rebuilt it as a beautiful, modern sports palace with great sightlines and amenities. That's exactly what should happen to Saratoga.

[Redboard]

Originally Posted by cj

They are having trouble selling the slots this year. Very predictably, those with good horses figured out there is no reason to buy now. You can get better deals closer to the race.

I'm not surprised. Why put the money up now when your horse could be lame by the time the race rolls around?

[Nitro]

Originally Posted by GMB@BP

Gun Runner is overrated. He is a very fine horse but until I see him run in a fast pressured pace or overcome any real adversity at all I am not going to anoint him as the second coming.

I don't think GR is over-rated at all. I mean if so many believe that Arrogate is so great yet losing twice after Dubai, then why not give GR some credit after running even harder in Dubai yet winning afterward.

I'm the last person to "anoint" any animal in training as something to possibly compare to those Great runners of the past. I think we ought to take "a wait and see" attitude before declaring anything over the top about Gun Runner. But you probably know how it goes: Sometimes you just get a feeling that the best is yet to come.

[GMB@BP]

Originally Posted by Nitro

I don't think GR is over-rated at all. I mean if so many believe that Arrogate is so great yet losing twice after Dubai, then why not give GR some credit after running even harder in Dubai yet winning afterward.

I'm the last person to "anoint" any animal in training as something to possibly compare to those Great runners of the past. I think we ought to take "a wait and see" attitude before declaring anything over the top about Gun Runner. But you probably know how it goes: Sometimes you just get a feeling that the best is yet to come.

I have to view things from a handicapping perspective. I am not trying to take anything away from Gun Runner as he makes those candy trips by using his natural speed to gain advantage which has left him loose on the lead which often generates very fast final times, often a horses top figures are earned just like that.

Looking back over 4 race run for Gun Runner back to the Clark he has not faced any decent front running speed. The one race it looked like there may be one horse to challenge him was the Foster where inexplicably Birdsong was rated.

Now Hall of Fame resumes have been built with tactics and race dynamics like this, Songbird and Azeri are two horses who come to mind.

So when the race dynamic is there I will take my shot. Until then I am sure he keeps jogging as he is much better than those he has faced (other than the old Arrogate who jogged by him).