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Old 11-08-2018, 12:59 PM   #1
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Is NYRA sick?

I do understand the impact of weather on racing! But after all summer and autumn, one would think that racing operations, schedulers and coordinators would check the Weather Channel in advance once in a while.

Doing the same thing over and over time after time without making any sort of adjustments is stupid beyond stupid.

Here is ONE PIECE OF ADVICE for you, adjust the condition book!
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:04 PM   #2
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They should hire you.

Or did you apply for a job with them and get rejected. That would explain a lot.
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:29 PM   #3
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I am a big critic of NYRA, but I bet writing condition books at Northeast tracks in the fall and spring when weather shifts are so common is a really tough job.
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Old 11-08-2018, 04:16 PM   #4
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Can you imagine taking races off the turf in a condition book a week or more out and then the day turns up sunny? That would happen. A lot.
Dumb idea.
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Old 11-08-2018, 04:48 PM   #5
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NYRA has 3 or 4 sub races in the condition book each day. I think there are probably some times several days out they know they likely will not be on the turf and maybe they could use the sub dirt races instead. Maybe they do that already, but does not seem like it. The last couple of months the weather has been ridiculous.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:20 PM   #6
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Maybe just too many races are carded for the turf.
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Maybe just too many races are carded for the turf.
Turf seems to draw larger fields, which attracts more bettors. Capping dirt races isn't rocket science, pick the speed horse. Turf is more random, more contestants have a chance.
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And as we have seen pretty much all year at NYRA, when it rains those big field go to Hell in a hurry. If NYRA is dead set on becoming some kind f Europe East, maybe they should consider getting rid of dirt and putting in poly to support that goal.
Anyone have any stats on how that works at WO? GG?

I know weather is unpredictable, but when you put on your product outdoors, you have to keep looking for solutions.
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I do understand the impact of weather on racing! But after all summer and autumn, one would think that racing operations, schedulers and coordinators would check the Weather Channel in advance once in a while.

Doing the same thing over and over time after time without making any sort of adjustments is stupid beyond stupid.

Here is ONE PIECE OF ADVICE for you, adjust the condition book!
Yes they are.
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Can't please everyone.

The turf-carded races are a big part of their business, and it takes brass balls to say "hey our weather guy thinks we've got a rain pattern in 2 weeks so we going to shift around 4 races each day for several days!"

I don't even know that they have a 'weather guy'.

Can't please everyone.

They did a solid job managing it and taking care of the turf course
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They don't have many horses to fill the dirt races with.

The turf races fill.

It's rained most weekends (or so it seems) in the northeast this year, and we're probably going to finish in the top 5 rainiest years in the last 150 years (that's a fact).

The horses to fill the dirt races don't exist, so they try for the turf. I's an impossible situation if you like full fields and turf races, but I have no idea what anyone who doesn't own a magic wand or crystal ball could do about it.
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Can't please everyone.

The turf-carded races are a big part of their business, and it takes brass balls to say "hey our weather guy thinks we've got a rain pattern in 2 weeks so we going to shift around 4 races each day for several days!"
It's not two weeks....It is several days.
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It's not two weeks....It is several days.
Can you clarify?

Right now, the AQU condition book is available for 11/21-12/2.

11/21 is twelve days from now and 12/2 is more than 3 weeks.

Way too far out to adjust due to anticipated weather of specific days.
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And as we have seen pretty much all year at NYRA, when it rains those big field go to Hell in a hurry. If NYRA is dead set on becoming some kind f Europe East, maybe they should consider getting rid of dirt and putting in poly to support that goal.
Anyone have any stats on how that works at WO? GG?

I know weather is unpredictable, but when you put on your product outdoors, you have to keep looking for solutions.
While the underlying reason may be the eventual demise of Belmont,
the idea of putting a second turf course in at a track where optimum
weather will allow you to run on it two out of six months is baffling IMO.
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Can you clarify?

Right now, the AQU condition book is available for 11/21-12/2.

11/21 is twelve days from now and 12/2 is more than 3 weeks.

Way too far out to adjust due to anticipated weather of specific days.
No I am saying that if on say a Sunday it looks like the following Thur and Fri are going to be washouts, to use the 3 or 4 substitute races already in the condition book when races are drawn if they are dirt races instead of turf races. Even if it just amounts to removing one turf race and adding a dirt race, the track would be ahead of the game.

They could actually be trying to do that already, I don't know. Sometimes dirt races just do not fill.
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