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Old 11-06-2017, 02:44 PM   #1
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Curlin vs Gun Runner

Two of Asmussen's best going head to head....and the winner is...??
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Old 11-06-2017, 02:49 PM   #2
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Gunrunner at 1-2.
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Old 11-06-2017, 05:51 PM   #3
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Are we serious on this one?

Give me Curlin at 1/9
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Old 11-06-2017, 06:30 PM   #4
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Curlin without a doubt in my mind. He was magnificent animal

I might have posted this here before, but the most electrifying race or even event I can ever remember in my life is the Street Sense Curlin stretch battle at the Preakness. I am not a spiritual person, but I swear Curlin surged only because of the energy created by the crowd, it was an unbelievable feeling one I will never forget in my life.

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Old 11-06-2017, 07:58 PM   #5
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It depends on the distance. If it's a 4.5-furlong race at Charles Town...then I make Gun Runner the 1/9 choice.
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We have sunk to Fantasy Horse racing...............
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Old 11-07-2017, 08:57 AM   #7
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Well, post-BC is always the silly season. It won't be long before some heat gets generated over Eclipse awards.
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Gun Runner is a very good horse, but he's no Curlin.
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In October I would have emphatically rejected any idea that Gun Runner could compare to Curlin.

(and my results suffered accordingly when I received hundreds less than had others won )

It's tougher today, so soon after seeing Gun Runner run so well in a top field.

In a 'dream race' Gun Runner may also have some advantage for being forwardly placed.

I'm happy to say both were great horses. Let's not forget Curlin's career. I don't mind doing the whole 'Two of Asmussen's best' thing that honors both.
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Curlin reached his peak sooner. So he has a better overall record of figures and accomplishments. But I think the Gun Runner we've seen over the last couple of months is no slouch and he'd get first run on Curlin. I don't think Curlin would be any mortal lock. I think I might take this Gun Runner at even money H2H unless the race was loaded with speed or the track playing against him.

(Gun Runner also looks a little better if you draw a line through his "off track" races).
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Curlin reached his peak sooner. So he has a better overall record of figures and accomplishments. But I think the Gun Runner we've seen over the last couple of months is no slouch and he'd get first run on Curlin. I don't think Curlin would be any mortal lock. I think I might take this Gun Runner at even money H2H unless the race was loaded with speed or the track playing against him.

(Gun Runner also looks a little better if you draw a line through his "off track" races).
This is the one thing I heard no one speak about. When Gun Runner faced Arrogate in the Dubai World Cup, the track was muddy. Just like Easy Goer, Gun Runner was not nearly at his best on a wet track.
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Wow what a great question. How do they compare on Speed figures ? TimeForm Beyers, T Graph , Ragozin ?

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This is the one thing I heard no one speak about. When Gun Runner faced Arrogate in the Dubai World Cup, the track was muddy. Just like Easy Goer, Gun Runner was not nearly at his best on a wet track.
Wasn't the inside pretty darn bad for the DWC too?
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Wow what a great question. How do they compare on Speed figures ? TimeForm Beyers, T Graph , Ragozin ?

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Wow what a great question. How do they compare on Speed figures ? TimeForm Beyers, T Graph , Ragozin ?

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You can find both of their sheets posted on the TG message board shortly after the Woodward. GR a little faster on his best. Remember though, horses have gotten a tad faster over the last 10 years... despite popular opinion to the contrary...
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