Twin Exacta

[the little guy]

We've been bouncing around some bet ideas and I was curious what people think about a twin exacta bet, where you have to hit two straight exactas?

[Secondbest]

Didn't they do that at roosevelt or yonkers years ago?

[EMD4ME]

Yes, Do it.


NYRA'S Biggest players have been exacta players. Anything with a chance at a carryover and skill can be a good thing.

I am sure NYRA will pick 2 hard races for the bet so it should work. However, there are so many sharpies out there at NYRA, so I'm sure they will have $50 or $100 on the 1st race combo, so I would consider a 3 race sequence.

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Originally Posted by the little guy

We've been bouncing around some bet ideas and I was curious what people think about a twin exacta bet, where you have to hit two straight exactas?

Interesting.

Just wondering if you're thinking it will bring in more money into the pools, or would it take away from other pools?

Payouts should be good, if not even great. I look at it as essentially a mini P4. Get back to back 10+ horse fields, and it becomes really interesting.

[johnhannibalsmith]

I loved the twin-trifecta when it was still a thing at Turf Paradise. Half the time you could sell part of your ticket to someone else after the first one for a nice profit and still roll into the second leg. It was not only lucrative at times, but added a different dimension of fun if you were on-track. I can't see why I wouldn't at least give the twin-exacta a try.

[alydar]

Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker

Interesting.

Just wondering if you're thinking it will bring in more money into the pools, or would it take away from other pools?

Payouts should be good, if not even great. I look at it as essentially a mini P4. Get back to back 10+ horse fields, and it becomes really interesting.

This is the question that is always out there. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if the Grand Slam was killed and replaced with this idea. I would go for trying to get it done.

This would be a straight bet not an exchange bet, I assume.

[Zaf]

I like the idea Takeout ?

Z

[rrpic6]

I think it was called "The Big P" at Waterford Park in the early 70's. It was quite the bet from what I've been told. A little before my legal age of wagering though. I loved trips to Laughlin and Vegas playing the Twin Q at their Station Casinos. I even had a few signers! That was mostly due to the limited access to large pools. Most bettors would play small tickets. 1,2,3 with 1,2 for example. I think that's a $6.00 bet. I might have spent about $80 to hit over $1000. I think the Twin Exacta at NYRA would be less tempting in the long run due to the large pools and sharp nationwide players. A similar $80 (or $160) since its an Exacta not a Quinella would eventually become frustrating as the Whales eat up the small fish IMO.

RR

[elhelmete]

I loved the Twin-Tri at Suffolk Downs back in the day.

A Twin-Exacta (call it a Twin-Perfecta for nostalgia's sake) is intriguing, seems like a good companion to the DD.

[pele polo]

I like the idea but believe the menu is already full and in need of trimming especially if another wager is introduced.

I've always liked how Oaklawn keeps there wagering menu simple. But of course NYRA has the handle to sustain all the rolling doubles and pick threes, I wonder if it's really necessary sometimes. There are those gamblers that can't help themselves and the less options the better. If they were able to create more churn, I think that is what is more beneficial in the long run.

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by the little guy

We've been bouncing around some bet ideas and I was curious what people think about a twin exacta bet, where you have to hit two straight exactas?

Twin Exacta sounds promising to me.

Having booked and played a Twin Quinella jackpot wager for years,
I know enough about the bet to recommend that you would need
flexibility in the races chosen on a daily basis. Also, there must be a
minimum number of runners provision. For instance, if less than 8
go to post in either leg, all bets are refunded for that day.

The races used would not have to be selected until 2 hours before first post.
In that case, late scratches would factor into the races chosen.

$2 increments.
For example, if you box 3 horses in Leg 1, going to a key horse
over 4 others in Leg 2, your ticket cost would be $48 ($12 X 4).

Small bettors can play a $2 ticket, if they wish.
They would have to hit 2 cold exactas to get their share of the jackpot.

I would play it in a heartbeat.

[parlay]

i could never figure out the twin tri. i believe they had it at Gulfstream in the late 80's early 90's. I asked people and no one ever explained it to me clearly.
My belief was that you could exchange every $2 winning tri in the first leg for a $2 tri in the second leg. If that is correct, could you exchange a $10 winning ticket in the 1st leg for 5 x $2 tickets in the 2nd leg?

[pele polo]

Originally Posted by parlay

i could never figure out the twin tri. i believe they had it at Gulfstream in the late 80's early 90's. I asked people and no one ever explained it to me clearly.
My belief was that you could exchange every $2 winning tri in the first leg for a $2 tri in the second leg. If that is correct, could you exchange a $10 winning ticket in the 1st leg for 5 x $2 tickets in the 2nd leg?

That's correct and there's also a payoff in the first half.

I think the Twin Exacta may work more similar to the Big Quin which is popular at some dog tracks, where you must select the first and second half at the same time (before the first race).

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by pele polo

That's correct and there's also a payoff in the first half.

I think the Twin Exacta may work more similar to the Big Quin which is popular at some dog tracks, where you must select the first and second half at the same time (before the first race).

Agreed.
Exchange wagers complicate things,
and are really only feasible on-track.

[sammy the sage]

might be ok...certainly better than the LAME Grand slam bet....never played that once...and the pools for it are dwindling....