Co-Pilot Deliberately Crashed Plane?

[Marshall Bennett]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Shooting at a metal door could be dangerous to the health of the shooter or bystanders.

If the plane's headed straight for a mountain who gives a fk?

[Show Me the Wire]

Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett

If the plane's headed straight for a mountain who gives a fk?

Have to agree with your sentiment.

[Hoofless_Wonder]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

Suicidal people don't often take out 150 innocent people with them. I think we are going to learn more about this.

Granted, murder-suicides are more rare than just suicides, and it is rare to take 150 people with you, but it has happened before with airliners.

Latest news is now his girlfriend dumped him the day before the crash, and he had vision problems that might have ended his career.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03...g-treated-for/

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by speculus

Why doesn't anyone consider the simple possibility of the co-pilot having a heart attack in mid-air? There is no law that forbids you to have a heart attack in the cockpit, is there?

The only confirmed evidence (that there was no answer to the commander's knocks) points to a possibility that the co-pilot was dying of a heart attack and may have accidentally hit the altitude lever.

Have we become such a skeptic society that only the sensational appeals to us as highly probable?

so this young guy had a heart attack at the exact moment that the pilot left the cockpit? doubtful
would a heart attack cause a person to reprogram the auto pilot?
its not that people are being cynical, officials are saying that the plane was intentionally downed.

[Valuist]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

so this young guy had a heart attack at the exact moment that the pilot left the cockpit? doubtful
would a heart attack cause a person to reprogram the auto pilot?
its not that people are being cynical, officials are saying that the plane was intentionally downed.

They've aleady said that from the black box, they could tell that this guy's breathing stayed steady right up until the plane crashed into the mountain.

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by Valuist

They've aleady said that from the black box, they could tell that this guy's breathing stayed steady right up until the plane crashed into the mountain.

That's scary incredible when you think about it.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by TJDave

That's scary incredible when you think about it.

One reason I'm not buying.

They say he dialed in the autopilot to descend and crash into the mountain.

Yet he sat there and never even changed his breathing pattern as he plunged to his death? He was watching the gauges, watching the altitude run out? And his breathing never changed? He would have to be unconscious or drugged .....

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

He would have to be unconscious or drugged .....

Or committed.

[Marshall Bennett]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

One reason I'm not buying.

They say he dialed in the autopilot to descend and crash into the mountain.

Yet he sat there and never even changed his breathing pattern as he plunged to his death? He was watching the gauges, watching the altitude run out? And his breathing never changed? He would have to be unconscious or drugged .....

How would you explain the captain getting locked out and the keypad he had access to over-ridden? He may not have been drugged, but his mental state was certainly unusual from what they've gathered.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett

How would you explain the captain getting locked out and the keypad he had access to over-ridden? He may not have been drugged, but his mental state was certainly unusual from what they've gathered.

i don't know enough about the keypad.

was it part of the onboard networks? or is a manual door lock/mechanical in nature? I would like to know that

[davew]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

i don't know enough about the keypad.

was it part of the onboard networks? or is a manual door lock/mechanical in nature? I would like to know that

a keycode on outside of door is entered - a light and beep goes off in cabin and person inside hits switch to allow entry and door opens. There is a 5 minute delay, so that if nothing in cabin happens, the door will open. A person flying can also hit the switch the other way and cancels the 5 minute bypass.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

i don't know enough about the keypad.

was it part of the onboard networks? or is a manual door lock/mechanical in nature? I would like to know that

There is a link to a very detailed story, including full specifics of the cockpit door operation on the Airbus A320, in Post #3 in this thread.

[Hoofless_Wonder]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

One reason I'm not buying.

They say he dialed in the autopilot to descend and crash into the mountain.

Yet he sat there and never even changed his breathing pattern as he plunged to his death? He was watching the gauges, watching the altitude run out? And his breathing never changed? He would have to be unconscious or drugged .....

He could have simply had his eyes closed, and wasn't watching anything. Likely, actually.

Now one of the "solutions" to the problem will be to take human pilots out of the equation.

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogsp...pilot-era.html

These proponents have much more faith in software than I do, and much more confidence the controls couldn't be hacked. Who doesn't recall the Airbus incident at the Paris Air Show in 1988?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kHa3WNerjU

[speculus]

Note this: Michel said that no scenario could yet be ruled out, including mechanical failure, because investigators do not have "the necessary evidence."

From the latest CNN report.

Strange statement, after the whole world was sold the rogue pilot story.

[Marshall Bennett]

Hopefully the data recorder will be located soon. This will show that the autopilot was set purposely to descend at a designed rate directly into the mountains. Only the co-pilot was in the cockpit so that pretty much narrows it down. This obviously wasn't in the original flight plan.
Barring some episode out of the Twilight Zone, what other scenario would make any sense? Even had he had a heart attack, he still deliberately destroyed the plane. There's simply no other way.