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06-04-2016, 03:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 7,656
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Wagering falls in May
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06-04-2016, 07:00 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Boston+Ocala
Posts: 23,768
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it could get into the reasons for this, but i just want to say its pretty sad and the game didn't really have to go this bad.
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06-04-2016, 07:13 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 876
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Surprised at this considering how well the year has been so far, but for the most part, less horses to fill less races it looks like. I still think based on the figures the amount wagered per race was higher than last year, and YTD wagering is still up
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06-04-2016, 07:25 PM
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Out-of-town Jasper
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,364
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I think five Saturdays last year and four this year is significant.
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06-04-2016, 07:29 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NJ/MD
Posts: 1,185
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Well, when dates went down by 12% (and a reduction in dates is not necessarily a bad thing), so it's little wonder that handle went down.
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06-04-2016, 07:43 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Diez meses en Port St. Lucie, FL; two months in the Dominican Republic
Posts: 4,355
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andtheyreoff
Well, when dates went down by 12% (and a reduction in dates is not necessarily a bad thing), so it's little wonder that handle went down.
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Also some tracks were running occasional 8 race cards as opposed to the usual 9, that will add to the overall reduction in total races run.
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06-04-2016, 08:26 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,829
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barahona44
Also some tracks were running occasional 8 race cards as opposed to the usual 9, that will add to the overall reduction in total races run.
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There are tracks running 6 and 7 race cards these days. A few I can think of are DEL, LAD and GG.
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06-04-2016, 09:15 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: route 66
Posts: 1,112
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Wouldn't mind seeing the numbers per track.
SA used to be my main track, but I'm starting to avoid it. Hadn't given it much thought, but it hurts my ears having to listen to that new race caller. As if someone put on a neurotic jazz record, where I'm used to some cool Miles Davis. This track announcing stuff is arranged so much better at the other coast. Just give me a race caller that blends in; not one that stands out.
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06-05-2016, 04:09 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,651
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Everyone seems to be ignoring something I find pretty glaring.
Despite the fact that the number of races and race dates are down something like 5-6%, year-to-date, handle is UP over 2%.
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06-05-2016, 05:19 PM
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The 19th Hole
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Russellville, KY
Posts: 308
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Everyone seems to be ignoring something I find pretty glaring.
Despite the fact that the number of races and race dates are down something like 5-6%, year-to-date, handle is UP over 2%.
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Baby steps. Hopefully this small upward trend can continue.
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06-05-2016, 08:45 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,829
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Everyone seems to be ignoring something I find pretty glaring.
Despite the fact that the number of races and race dates are down something like 5-6%, year-to-date, handle is UP over 2%.
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Cut races, better fields, more betting?
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06-05-2016, 08:54 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 2,053
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Cut races, better fields, more betting?
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and quality fields trumps 2 or 3% lower take out.. i don't know anyone who says let me bet that b or c rate track cause they have lower take out... do you?
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06-05-2016, 10:37 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,829
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Quote:
Originally Posted by no breathalyzer
and quality fields trumps 2 or 3% lower take out.. i don't know anyone who says let me bet that b or c rate track cause they have lower take out... do you?
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Actually, yes, I do know several. It is an interesting dynamic. Field size, quality of field, and takeout all play a part.
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06-05-2016, 11:51 PM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 9,854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by no breathalyzer
and quality fields trumps 2 or 3% lower take out.. i don't know anyone who says let me bet that b or c rate track cause they have lower take out... do you?
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Yeah.....me for example: I love Sam Houston.
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06-06-2016, 09:05 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA.
Posts: 7,464
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This year has to be viewed as a positive. Parx closing during the winter was a good move. The Aqueduct inner track meet was one of the best in a long time. Tracks carding less races, good move. Lower takeout at Canterbury, good. Field size seems surprisingly solid at many tracks including some, such as Delaware, that were in dire shape a few years ago.
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