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01-18-2018, 12:47 PM
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#1066
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Originally Posted by hcap
I think some Trumpeteers will need a giant chill pill
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/17/u...-informed.html
Trump Was Not ‘Fully Informed’ in Campaign Vows on Wall, Chief of Staff Says
..WASHINGTON — President Trump’s chief of staff privately told a group of Democratic lawmakers on Wednesday that Mr. Trump had not been “fully informed” when promising voters a wall along the Mexican border last year, and said that he had persuaded the president it was not necessary. He also expressed optimism that a bipartisan immigration deal could eventually be reached.
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Any predictions for Kelly's replacement as Chief of Staff?
Trump says that he has not changed his position one bit on the wall, even though Trump's current discussions about the wall sound more like what Kelly is describing than like what Trump campaigned on.
And if Trump has modified his view in any way, it is political suicide for Kelly to claim credit for persuading him. Trump has said many times that all of his ideas are 100% his. As Steve Bannon learned the hard way.
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A man's got to know his limitations. -- Dirty Harry
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01-18-2018, 01:01 PM
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#1067
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Aledo,TX
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Originally Posted by Clocker
Any predictions for Kelly's replacement as Chief of Staff?
Trump says that he has not changed his position one bit on the wall, even though Trump's current discussions about the wall sound more like what Kelly is describing than like what Trump campaigned on.
And if Trump has modified his view in any way, it is political suicide for Kelly to claim credit for persuading him. Trump has said many times that all of his ideas are 100% his. As Steve Bannon learned the hard way.
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Has he really changed his thoughts about the wall?
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/by...rticle/2646298
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01-18-2018, 01:14 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: near Philadelphia
Posts: 4,560
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Originally Posted by schweitz
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Who did you mean by 'he' ?
If you meant Trump, no Trump hasn't changed his views on The Wall.
If you meant Gen. Kelly, well... Kelly always had the views he implied about not needing a total Wall. Kelly is weak on immigration matters as is his replacement -- the one that the creepy Cory Booker insulted and harangued the other day in typical, cowardly liberal Democrat fashion.
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01-18-2018, 01:16 PM
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#1069
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Aledo,TX
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Originally Posted by reckless
Who did you mean by 'he' ?
If you meant Trump, no Trump hasn't changed his views on The Wall.
If you meant Gen. Kelly, well... Kelly always had the views he implied about not needing a total Wall. Kelly is weak on immigration matters as is his replacement -- the one that the creepy Cory Booker insulted and harangued the other day in typical, cowardly liberal Democrat fashion.
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Sorry, meant Trump.
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01-18-2018, 01:17 PM
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#1070
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 17,095
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Originally Posted by schweitz
Has he really changed his thoughts about the wall?
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The facts don't matter. The issue is that Kelly says Trump changed his thoughts, and that he, Kelly, persuaded him to change.
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01-18-2018, 04:10 PM
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#1071
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,540
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Possibly the few the hundred thousand people who live work and pay taxes here whose lives as they know them kinda hinge on those talks...? Just a guess though.
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Everybody's lives hinge on something in this world that could go wrong...if I spent my life worrying about everyone, I'd never get anything done.
Who's worrying about me?
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01-18-2018, 04:12 PM
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#1072
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,540
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
30 years ago?
Try in 2006....Melania pregnant with son Barron.
Can you imagine if our previous president pulled a stunt like that?
Your man is a scumbag.
Granted, he's a scumbag doing what you and yours want him to do.
A classless bunch devoid of morality.
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If I wanted morality, I'd vote for a clergyman...how many clergymen have been POTUSA? None.
Plenty of immoral ****s have been President before Trump though...some DEMS too...you didn't care then...I don't care now.
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01-18-2018, 04:17 PM
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#1073
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,540
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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Was it a coincidence the Democrats had a former KKK leader as a sitting member of Congress for 50+ years until he finally dropped dead?
Something tells me no.
Bottom line...nobody cares...
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01-18-2018, 04:22 PM
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#1074
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,540
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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if he's a nazi sympathizer, when is he going to put his daughter, son-in-law, and grandson in the concentration camp he's building on the south lawn?
You see, shit like what you posted...that's downright DESTRUCTIVE to the country...
The tear down of this President (built mostly on BS) is the absolute worst thing I have ever seen, and does more harm to the USA than Trump ever could in a million years.
You and your ilk are the absolute scum of the earth for peddling this bullshit.
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01-18-2018, 05:18 PM
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#1075
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gelding
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,883
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
The tear down of this President (built mostly on BS) is the absolute worst thing I have ever seen, and does more harm to the USA than Trump ever could in a million years. You and your ilk are the absolute scum of the earth for peddling this bullshit.
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Snowflake alert!
Eight years worth around here of hating on Obama.. the Un-American, the NOT American, the America HATER, the Muslim, the terrorist, the Islamic sympathizer, the racist, etc etc etc.. and I don't recall one peep out of you protesting any of that peddled bullshit..
Your OT forum is dominated by Trumpettes. Yet you still sound so down..
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01-18-2018, 05:40 PM
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#1076
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 22,629
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Snowflake alert!
Eight years worth around here of hating on Obama.. the Un-American, the NOT American, the America HATER, the Muslim, the terrorist, the Islamic sympathizer, the racist, etc etc etc.. and I don't recall one peep out of you protesting any of that peddled bullshit..
Your OT forum is dominated by Trumpettes. Yet you still sound so down..
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You do not need to alert us you are a snowflake.
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01-18-2018, 08:54 PM
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#1077
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gelding
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,883
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01-18-2018, 08:56 PM
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#1078
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gelding
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,883
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01-18-2018, 08:59 PM
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#1079
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 14,471
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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Oh Danny Boy
Our 45th President Donald J. Trump is outperforming all Presidents and Congress in the last 30 years, you folks can't keep your shit straight.
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01-18-2018, 09:02 PM
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#1080
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gelding
Join Date: Oct 2008
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