super stock + known agenda

[lamboguy]

the beauty of pari mutual betting is that everyone has their own opinions and you are allowed to express your personal opinions at the windows...

if you have a strong opinion, step up to the plate and unload.

[f2tornado]

Originally Posted by boys at tosconova

no chance in hell either gets an up close, rail hugging trip unless they call on some early foot.

If a slug like Lookin at Lee can get a dream trip from the 1 hole then just about any horse can. SS was able to press a hot pace in the Ark. He probably fades pulling the same here. KA kind of a wildcard as to what style he will run. He's no front running type but could see him a little closer to the pace than the paper might suggest. Probably boils down to where he draws. Post position is typically overrated aside from perhaps the rail but I think it matters a bit more this go round given so many horses have flashed the same running style. The field is full of EP types and few true P or S types. One reason why I'll use KA in all wagers and have Besos on some gimmicks.

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by f2tornado

If a slug like Lookin at Lee can get a dream trip from the 1 hole then just about any horse can. SS was able to press a hot pace in the Ark. He probably fades pulling the same here. KA kind of a wildcard as to what style he will run. He's no front running type but could see him a little closer to the pace than the paper might suggest. Probably boils down to where he draws. Post position is typically overrated aside from perhaps the rail but I think it matters a bit more this go round given so many horses have flashed the same running style. The field is full of EP types and few true P or S types. One reason why I'll use KA in all wagers and have Besos on some gimmicks.

fantastic analysis

[boys at tosconova]

Originally Posted by f2tornado

If a slug like Lookin at Lee can get a dream trip from the 1 hole then just about any horse can. SS was able to press a hot pace in the Ark. He probably fades pulling the same here. KA kind of a wildcard as to what style he will run. He's no front running type but could see him a little closer to the pace than the paper might suggest. Probably boils down to where he draws. Post position is typically overrated aside from perhaps the rail but I think it matters a bit more this go round given so many horses have flashed the same running style. The field is full of EP types and few true P or S types. One reason why I'll use KA in all wagers and have Besos on some gimmicks.

i'm big on positioning.

give me some rope here but it seems like ka is more likely to be 15th than he his to be 8th at the first call.

he'll likely have to move off the rail much earlier if he's even on the rail to begin with. + there should be many horses in front of him that have saved pace as well.

seems like he might throw in more of a davis type race in a 20 horse field than he would a fla derby type race

[f2tornado]

Originally Posted by boys at tosconova

i'm big on positioning.
give me some rope here but it seems like ka is more likely to be 15th than he his to be 8th at the first call.

I suspect he will be closer to 8th than 15th but if he runs like Exaggerator and is 15th at the first call then he can still be in the game. It's not like most of the "speed" in this is all that fast. I have confidence in Irad here. Not sold he's the winner as it will be hard to run down a horse like a game EQ in the stretch but he will get some use on top my plays. He fits too many of my preferred angles to ignore.