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02-24-2018, 04:49 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Trump is godlike-- blah,blah,blah
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Trump is evil -- blah blah blah
Get over yourself dude, you got nothing, nadda, on any of the righties here.
The big 0. You know, like 0bama was - Mr. Zip! 
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02-24-2018, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
The world's developed countries, (which is why Japan is important), is much more appropriate and gives us a yardstick to use. Similar top the yardstick to use for universal health care.
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Assuming that those are the "correct" numbers you want, what does that prove and what difference does it make in the real world?
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02-24-2018, 05:55 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Japan, that's a city in Jersey, right?
Comparing Japan to the US is, uh, stupid.
Heeere's your sign.
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02-24-2018, 07:52 PM
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Just another Facist
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Every one of those countries at the bottom of the list are reachable via a hundred airports in this country. You can be there in 24 hours
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WE ARE THE DUMBEST COUNTRY ON THE PLANET!
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02-24-2018, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Japan, that's a city in Jersey, right?
Comparing Japan to the US is, uh, stupid.
Heeere's your sign.
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Japan allows essentially NO Immigration. they are a homogeneous society. I don't think hcrap will mention that, blah blah blah what a fake phony fraud.
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02-24-2018, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RunForTheRoses
Japan allows essentially NO Immigration. they are a homogeneous society. I don't think hcrap will mention that, blah blah blah what a fake phony fraud.
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It depends on which issue they are pushing that day. For instance if they are pushing education and teacher pay (or some other progressive crap) they might include Japan....
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02-24-2018, 11:04 PM
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You do realize that crime rates in Europe are significantly higher than ours correct? You'd have to acknowledge that first before you can have a fair conversation on the topic.
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02-24-2018, 11:59 PM
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That's why we are free, brother.
No one is forcing you to not go back to the stifling confines of musty old Europe. Maybe you could steer your ark thataway.
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If we have to use violence to be free, then we are not really free at all. We are prisoners of that violence.
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02-25-2018, 12:10 AM
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So, we should be pleased that our murder rate is lower than Guatemala, or the Sudan or Venezuela?
We are supposed to be the leaders of the civilized world; yet we have a higher murder rate than Iran, Rwanda and North Korea-although, to be fair, I doubt they count political murders in North Korea.
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02-25-2018, 12:24 AM
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If we have to use violence to be free, then we are not really free at all. We are prisoners of that violence.
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How are we using violence to be free? Not to be confused with using appropriate levels of force to defend against assault on our freedoms.
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02-25-2018, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
You do realize that crime rates in Europe are significantly higher than ours correct? You'd have to acknowledge that first before you can have a fair conversation on the topic.
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Source? But curiously not according to the chart illustrating Murder rate I keep posting. Is it wrong?
How about all crime?
Total crimes: Countries Compared
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-...e/Total-crimes
Last edited by hcap; 02-25-2018 at 05:05 AM.
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02-25-2018, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
Assuming that those are the "correct" numbers you want, what does that prove and what difference does it make in the real world?
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Go ahead and quote from Fox or Newsmax, or the New York Post on the "correct" numbers
If you actually use objective news, instead of the alt rights tin foil numbers, it certainly makes a hell of a difference
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02-25-2018, 07:37 AM
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Sorry, double checked all crimes
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-...e/Total-crimes
and must retract what I posted. Seems per capita, the US ranks mid range. Here are specific rates for various crimes.....
http://www.civitas.org.uk/content/fi...ecdjan2012.pdf
However the rate of homicides as shown by many studies is correct. In the above study, only Mexico and Estonia are greater
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Comparisons of Crime in OECD Countries
Intentional Homicide
Country
Police Recorded Cases
per 100,000 population
Mexico
18.1
Estonia
5.2
United States
5.0
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and so is the relationship between homicides and gun ownership.
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02-25-2018, 09:02 AM
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That is the proof we need to build a wall.
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02-25-2018, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
So, we should be pleased that our murder rate is lower than Guatemala, or the Sudan or Venezuela?
We are supposed to be the leaders of the civilized world; yet we have a higher murder rate than Iran, Rwanda and North Korea-although, to be fair, I doubt they count political murders in North Korea.
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No, but to show a chart that implies the US is the top ranked country in the world when it is actually closer to 94th is disingenuous and really an implied outright LIE. But I guess it does help the dim progressive cause for the easily manipulated and fooled dim cult.
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