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Old 02-24-2018, 09:22 AM   #451
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But, but government is supposed to take care of us at every turn
Only if you're a Democrat.
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Old 02-24-2018, 09:24 AM   #452
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http://abc6onyourside.com/news/natio...arkland-gunman

This is starting to look real bad.......

When do they start calling for the Sheriff and police Chief to resign?
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Old 02-24-2018, 09:27 AM   #453
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His pension was vested, so it is highly doubtful anything could be done there. If he was ordered to enter the building and refused, there might be a case for internal discipline. But with no supervision on site, tough to prove that he was not acting prudently, especially if he had a union defending him at a hearing. And even more so in retrospect when 4 of his fellow officers took cover behind cars rather than go inside. They might be facing some disciplinary action.

Looks to me like he had nothing to gain but grief if he stayed, and bailing out was the smart thing for him just to get away from it all.
But why would the four face charges when they were acting in compliance with that Supreme Court decision ShowMe shared with us?
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Old 02-24-2018, 09:33 AM   #454
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Hats off to Coral Springs, where obviously, the people are of much higher character and the man have balls.

Who these these chicken-shit excuses of cops?
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Old 02-24-2018, 10:14 AM   #455
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This is starting to look real bad.......

When do they start calling for the Sheriff and police Chief to resign?
As most of us know Broward County is a liberal bastion. One is led to wonder if the Broward County Sheriff's department received orders to stand down -- and just let the tragic drama unfold until the shooter ran out of ammo, offed himself or surrendered.
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Old 02-24-2018, 10:32 AM   #456
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Hats off to Coral Springs, where obviously, the people are of much higher character and the man have balls.

Who these these chicken-shit excuses of cops?
A Coral Springs firefighter (Ralph's link) without a gun or a vest went into the building and rendered first aid.Some people just show guts.

Parkland doesn't have its own full service police force per se, back in 2004 they instead "merged" it with the Broward County sheriff's department, contracting out the heavy lifting law enforcement responsibilities to the county. (Parkland's police force is for nonemergency duties;traffic and parking violations, code enforcement, etc.). My point is maybe the deputies don't feel the same connection to a certain community that they might if they worked for it directly.Peterson lives in Boynton Beach, (he has police guarding his home) which according to Google Maps is 26 miles from Parkland.Without knowing how the county assigns deputies, maybe he could devolp an "I just work here" attitude.Of course, the Coral Springs P.D. doesn't work for the town of Parkland either and that didn't stop them from entering the school..
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This is starting to look real bad.......

When do they start calling for the Sheriff and police Chief to resign?



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There are allegations that sheriffs department in Florida, including Broward and Miami-Dade, essentially stopped arresting students for crimes some years ago. This lowered the juvenile delinquent rates, and the improved statistics got them a lot of state and federal money.

That may explain why 39 visits by deputies to the shooter's house resulted in no arrest.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/9...744374784.html
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Old 02-24-2018, 11:35 AM   #459
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Old 02-24-2018, 11:37 AM   #460
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Kids, always have been a problem.

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Old 02-24-2018, 11:43 AM   #461
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Jesse Dreck could have added Community Organizer.
Looks like the sheriff had a lot of community organizers on the payroll. But what else would you expect from a Democrat?

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Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel—the man whose agency failed to prevent the Parkland massacre despite having received a tip last November that Nikolas Cruz was plotting a mass shooting—has been accused of public corruption.

Two years ago, the Sun Sentinel reported that Israel was rewarding top political supporters by giving them and their family members cushy jobs doing public relations and community outreach for the Broward County Sheriff's Office. One such position, outreach manager, paid out a salary of $78,489. The person who got that job was the husband of Israel's campaign manager.

Israel had been a Republican but ran for office as a Democrat. He was first elected sheriff in 2012, then re-elected in 2016.
https://reason.com/blog/2018/02/23/b...tt-israel-accu
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Why would a sane person vote for a democrat for a police office?????

That's like asking Joey Chestnut to watch your Hot Dog Cart while you run to the store!

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There are allegations that sheriffs department in Florida, including Broward and Miami-Dade, essentially stopped arresting students for crimes some years ago. This lowered the juvenile delinquent rates, and the improved statistics got them a lot of state and federal money.

That may explain why 39 visits by deputies to the shooter's house resulted in no arrest.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/9...744374784.html
So it was for the love of the money for which all those youngsters died? What a comforting, consoling message for all the survivors, family members and all the other kids alike.

You see...the really, really huge question that is just screaming out and begging to be asked is this one: Why is virtually all this gun violence restricted to our public schools?. But this kind of question will never be asked -- it won't even enter the minds of most people. This kind of deep, penetrating, soul-searching question is analogous to asking, "Why are our prisons filled with an inordinate number of minorities?" When these kinds of questions are asked, they lead to a host of secondary questions or subsets of questions. And when we start drilling down this deep, the answers become excruciatingly painful. We start to find out things about how the federal government uses money to manipulate and control states, counties, municipalities and public school systems, for starters. But this is just the beginning of woes.

Then we find out things like how this country has a legal drug culture that is apparently blessed by all levels of government. One gent on this thread recently mentioned two very prominent and popular drugs that our youth are on.

Then we start to learn about the learning culture in our public schools. What kids are taught and what is altogether taboo to teach. One could easily start to contrast public school curricular with private school's curricular. Wow...could these differences possibly have anything to do why virtually all this violence has been restricted to public schools? Assuredly, neither the unions or most teachers would not want to go here!

And then we cannot ignore the home environment where these children are raised and taught....well, taught what exactly? The secular humanistic values that were also rammed down the throats of the kids' parents, perhaps? These are the values that were built upon the ever-moving, sifting sands of moral relativism. Not a real solid foundation -- but hey, we gotta move with the flow to make "progress", right?

But fear not, we'll never drill down to anywhere near this depth. Instead, we'll keep it simple, [for the] stupid. We'll make amoral, inanimate guns the scapegoat. Guns are the real villains in this society. But the leftists are shrewd and wily; they know they have to put a real face on those guns. Enter scapegoat Number Two: The NRA. It's much easier and so less painful to just apply a few band aids to those raw, festering, puss-filled, infected wounds that are slowly killing the moral sensibilities our society.

The really tough question of all questions, therefore, will never be asked. Everyone can relax and continue in the deception.
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You see...the really, really huge question that is just screaming out and begging to be asked is this one: Why is virtually all this gun violence restricted to our public schools?.
I asked this question a while back and was largely ignored.

My response is simple: discipline, both in the private school and in the home. The kids are brought up right.
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Old 02-24-2018, 01:00 PM   #465
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Looks like the sheriff had a lot of community organizers on the payroll. But what else would you expect from a Democrat?

https://reason.com/blog/2018/02/23/b...tt-israel-accu
Hmm...time to connect some dots. Democrat + community organizers + big bucks to cronies + sheriff's lecture to NRA = golden opportunity for a crisis too good to squander by sending in deputies to stop the mayhem and bloodshed.

And we all know one of the golden rules of socialism, right? The sacrifice of a few is always acceptable for the benefit of the many. This kind of mentality demands that the good of the collective always outweighs any individual(s) considerations. So what several kids are killed? Gotta look at the really big picture and see how their [sacrificial] death is going to benefit society on the long run.

Would not surprise me at all if this sheriff gave the order to his deputies to stand down and let it all play out.
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