Religion II

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by boxcar

I never read Jesus' command that way. Could it be that the gray matter between your ears consists of "disjointed fragments"?

Also, our Buddha loving friend Light who "believes in" Jesus most certainly doesn't see that command that way either.

Where in Jesus's teachings did you see it suggested that you, as a "Christian", should go out and buy a gun?

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Again...how many of those would there be?

Six.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Six.

Thank you. Getting that info from you was like wrestling with 20 ft. 'gator.

And you are conversant in all six?

Finally, is Koine Greek still in use today?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

NO "H"...in ANY of the dialects.

Now I understand that M. Nicoll was not correct literally in his book The Mark

But aiming and not connecting to the goal and often watching this lack of consciousness, and " missing the mark" figuratively, is pretty much a main concern of Gurdjeff and Fourth Way Schools.

You Must Have an Aim, by G.I. Gurdjieff
https://parabola.org/2018/01/31/you-...g-i-gurdjieff/

R de P: So I would like to know what I can do so that my will can have more of an action on myself. I don’t have a hold on myself.

Gurdjieff: You must have an aim, a serious aim. And you must establish a relationship between your task and your aim, an aim you cannot forget. Your task concerns your aim and brings you to your aim. The first day you do it indifferently, the second day a little better, the third day, you do it whether you like it or not. It is in accomplishing your task relentlessly, without considering your mood, that you will succeed in having will. You must do this gradually. It will increase. One cannot have will all at once. One cannot go to the pharmacy to buy will.

Gurdjieff on Aim, as recounted to P.D. Ouspensky in “
In Search of the Miraculous taken from the edition published by by Paul H.
Crompton Ltd 2004, Pages 99 -100
http://www.doremishock.com/manuscripts/Aim.pdf

“You misunderstood me,” said G. “I was not speaking of the philosophical significance of the aim of existence. Man does not know it and he cannot know it as long as he remains what he is, first of all, because there is not one but many aims of existence. On the contrary, attempt s to answer this question using ordinary methods are utterly hopeless and useless. I was asking about an entirely different thing, I was asking about your personal aim, about what you want to attain, and not about the reason for your existence.

Everyone must have his own aim: one man wants riches, another health, a third wants the kingdom of heaven, the fourth wants to be a general, and so on. It is about aims of this
sort that I am asking.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Thank you. Getting that info from you was like wrestling with 20 ft. 'gator.

And you are conversant in all six?

Finally, is Koine Greek still in use today?

No...I'm not fully conversant in all six. But I have no trouble identifying the word "amartia" in all six, in order to make sure that there is no "h" attached to it.

In its biblical sense, the Koine Greek language is currently in use only during the liturgy of the Greek church. But there is also a "literary" form of Koine...which is in use in today's advanced academic circles.

[hcap]

Btw, Are these are Religious people?

Here are 4 far-right evangelical extremists who have made absurd statements during the Trump era
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/4-f...nts-trump-era/

Right-wing evangelist Franklin Graham, son of the late Rev. Billy Graham, became the butt of jokes this week for warning, on July 25, that anyone who criticizes President Trump for allegedly cheating on his wives and paying hush money to porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal risks facing the wrath of God. Graham even quoted scripture to explain why the media and fellow Christians needed to leave Trump alone. But in the Trump era, Graham is hardly the only right-wing Christian fundamentalist who has been making ridiculous statements. With Trump in office, the Christian Right is feeling empowered—and with that empowerment has come other comments that are as laughable as Graham’s.

Here are four other Christian fundamentalists who have been making ludicrous statements in the Trump era..........

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

No...I'm not fully conversant in all six. But I have no trouble identifying the word "amartia" in all six, in order to make sure that there is no "h" attached to it.

In its biblical sense, the Koine Greek language is currently in use only during the liturgy of the Greek church. But there is also a "literary" form of Koine...which is in use in today's advanced academic circles.

Nothing personal but I'll go with the Koine Greek scholars. Plus there is a Hebrew equivalent to "harmartia" that also means to "miss the mark". Scripture is quite consistent with itself.

But as stated earlier, "missing the mark" is only one aspect to sin. Sin is also lawlessness (1Jn 3:4) which I have expounded upon in the past.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

Btw, Are these are Religious people?

Here are 4 far-right evangelical extremists who have made absurd statements during the Trump era
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/4-f...nts-trump-era/

Right-wing evangelist Franklin Graham, son of the late Rev. Billy Graham, became the butt of jokes this week for warning, on July 25, that anyone who criticizes President Trump for allegedly cheating on his wives and paying hush money to porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal risks facing the wrath of God. Graham even quoted scripture to explain why the media and fellow Christians needed to leave Trump alone. But in the Trump era, Graham is hardly the only right-wing Christian fundamentalist who has been making ridiculous statements. With Trump in office, the Christian Right is feeling empowered—and with that empowerment has come other comments that are as laughable as Graham’s.

Here are four other Christian fundamentalists who have been making ludicrous statements in the Trump era..........

With Trump in office, I'm feeling empowered to thank God for giving Americans a president we desperately need after eight years of total incompetency.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by boxcar

With Trump in office, I'm feeling empowered to thank God for giving Americans a president we desperately need after eight years of total incompetency.

Who was it that gave OBAMA to the Americans? SATAN?

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Who was it that gave OBAMA to the Americans? SATAN?

The White House lit up in gay rainbows for starters....

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by hcap

Btw, Are these are Religious people?

Here are 4 far-right evangelical extremists who have made absurd statements during the Trump era
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/4-f...nts-trump-era/

Right-wing evangelist Franklin Graham, son of the late Rev. Billy Graham, became the butt of jokes this week for warning, on July 25, that anyone who criticizes President Trump for allegedly cheating on his wives and paying hush money to porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal risks facing the wrath of God. Graham even quoted scripture to explain why the media and fellow Christians needed to leave Trump alone. But in the Trump era, Graham is hardly the only right-wing Christian fundamentalist who has been making ridiculous statements. With Trump in office, the Christian Right is feeling empowered—and with that empowerment has come other comments that are as laughable as Graham’s.

Here are four other Christian fundamentalists who have been making ludicrous statements in the Trump era..........

Yes...where would religion be without those televangelists?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Who was it that gave OBAMA to the Americans? SATAN?

Ask me this question in a month or so after I've completed my study on the Unseen Realm of supernatural forces.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

The White House lit up in gay rainbows for starters....

The could be an indication that the powers and principalities and angels who ruled over Sodom and Gomorrah invaded America and colluded with the Dimwits.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by boxcar

With Trump in office, I'm feeling empowered to thank God for giving Americans a president we desperately need after eight years of total incompetency.

Agreed.
Except I'd say it was at least 16 years and perhaps a couple more.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Yes...where would religion be without those televangelists?

Big tents.