Religion II

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by boxcar

It might boggle your mind but God still successfully accomplished his plan of redemption for the entire world through Israel from whom came the Messiah. As scripture says, salvation is indeed from the Jews!

God redefines "irony, doesn't he?

Yes...scripture says that "salvation is indeed from the Jews". And...WHO wrote this scripture? Is it surprising that a group of people would write some religious documents, naming their own race as "God's chosen people"...and then giving themselves full credit for the salvation that God supposedly bestows upon mankind? Why should the rest of the world believe such a story?

[Light]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Why would you denounce anything that anyone would do since your god loves everything everyone does no matter what. Haven't you heard that your god is love, love is god, your god is love, love is god, etc., etc., etc.? Your god loves everyone regardless of what they do. You should too, and get off your sanctimonious, holier-than-thou high horse, already. What makes you think that your god loves you any more than anyone else in this world? Your god's unconditional love doesn't discriminate.

You really need to get over yourself.

P.S. Also your "best friend" once said, "Judge not and ye shall not be judged." You've been waxing awfully judgmental lately. You need to learn to love just like your god.

Remember Romans 5:8 God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. In other words. Hate the sin,love the sinner.

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by Light

Remember Romans 5:8 God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. In other words. Hate the sin,love the sinner.

Exactly, that's why I have love for you Light, and Thaskalos…..But I don't love Boxcar for some reason, even though he's a brother in Christ....Wonder why that is?

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

Exactly, that's why I have love for you Light, and Thaskalos…..But I don't love Boxcar for some reason, even though he's a brother in Christ....Wonder why that is?

Wait...you mean you have love for me and Light...in SPITE of our "sins"?

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Wait...you mean you have love for me and Light...in SPITE of our "sins"?

WE all are sinners, but salvation makes it less and less so.....Except for Boxcar, he's perfect don't ya know?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Actor

Can you cite any archeological evidence that early man was cannibalistic?

What he can do, and has done is claim it was god's "justice" to murder all the Egyptian first born, and....

totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’ ”

So what's a little cannibalism among the literal minded?

Archaeology, science, history is all besides the point.

[VigorsTheGrey]

Originally Posted by Actor

Can you cite any archeological evidence that early man was cannibalistic?

The phoenicians.....

“At particular times of danger, for example war or natural disaster, human sacrifices, largely children, were also made as indicated in exaggerated biblical and Roman references, in Phoenician colonies, and in art. Where this rite, in imitation of the sacrifice by El of his own son, was performed is known as a topheth (tophet), and the act of sacrifice molk. The victims were killed by fire, although it is not clear precisely how, and there is no archaeological evidence from Phoenicia itself, only its colonies.”

https://www.ancient.eu/Phoenician_Religion/

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

It might boggle your mind but God still successfully accomplished his plan of redemption for the entire world through Israel from whom came the Messiah. As scripture says, salvation is indeed from the Jews!

God redefines "irony, doesn't he?

It took a few do-overs and many genocides. And it looks like he is still messing around.

[VigorsTheGrey]

“It was a custom of the ancients in great crises of danger for the rulers of a city or nation, in order to avert the common ruin, to give up the most beloved of their children for sacrifice as a ransom to the avenging daemons; and those who were thus given up were sacrificed with mystic rites.

Cronus then, whom the Phoenicians call Elus, who was king of the country and subsequently, after his decease, was deified as the star Saturn, had by a nymph of the country named Anobret an only begotten son, whom they on this account called Iedud, the only begotten being still so called among the Phoenicians;

and when very great dangers from war had beset the country, he arrayed his son in royal apparel, and prepared an altar, and sacrificed him.”

[Hank]

The last few post by the entity referred to as "Boxcar" leaves no doubt.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Light

Remember Romans 5:8 God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. In other words. Hate the sin,love the sinner.

Tell us, please, who the WE and US are in the verse, and why.

Furthermore, a while back you said your god cannot hate anything because he loves, loves, loves, loves, loves, loves -- and loves some more -- infinitely, in fact. But now you're contradicting yourself. You're saying now that your god hates sin???? And you say this after telling us how good and necessary sin is for us!? How natural sin is????

How long have you been so internally conflicted?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey

“It was a custom of the ancients in great crises of danger for the rulers of a city or nation, in order to avert the common ruin, to give up the most beloved of their children for sacrifice as a ransom to the avenging daemons; and those who were thus given up were sacrificed with mystic rites.

Cronus then, whom the Phoenicians call Elus, who was king of the country and subsequently, after his decease, was deified as the star Saturn, had by a nymph of the country named Anobret an only begotten son, whom they on this account called Iedud, the only begotten being still so called among the Phoenicians;

and when very great dangers from war had beset the country, he arrayed his son in royal apparel, and prepared an altar, and sacrificed him.”

Do you have a link for that, Vig? Interesting quote.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

Exactly, that's why I have love for you Light, and Thaskalos…..But I don't love Boxcar for some reason, even though he's a brother in Christ....Wonder why that is?

Then you need to repent and make that right with the Lord, for it is written:

1 John 3:10
10 By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.
NASB

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

WE all are sinners, but salvation makes it less and less so.....Except for Boxcar, he's perfect don't ya know?

I don't think Boxcar ever said that or even remotely hinted that.

Positionally, (by Justification) I'm perfect in Christ because God sees clothed in Christ's righteousness -- not my own. But practically, not so much...

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Yes...scripture says that "salvation is indeed from the Jews". And...WHO wrote this scripture? Is it surprising that a group of people would write some religious documents, naming their own race as "God's chosen people"...and then giving themselves full credit for the salvation that God supposedly bestows upon mankind? Why should the rest of the world believe such a story?

Scripture doesn't say that salvation is OF the Jews -- but that it's FROM the Jews. Was not Jesus a Jew? Did not the nation of Israel bring forth the promised Messiah who would fulfill the Abrahamic Covenant by bringing salvation to the whole world (Jews and Gentiles)?

But you also conveniently forget that the Jews who wrote scripture were at the same time brutally honest about their own failings; for they often wrote about themselves in the most unflattering terms.