Linda Rice

[Brisk Urging]

The Linda Rice barn has been on a roll, 8-for-22 dating back to Nov. 23. During that time only 1 horse has finished off the board (8 were 2nd and 5 were 3rd).


How is she still training?

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Brisk Urging

How is she still training?

Apparently, very well

[Robert Fischer]

yea she leveled off for a while and then got hot again to the point that her entries are taking money in the pools



was lucky to get on the bandwagon before it became common knowledge, and/or a high% statistic

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Her team seems to have stepped up certain aspects of training.

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[BarchCapper]

Originally Posted by Brisk Urging

The Linda Rice barn has been on a roll, 8-for-22 dating back to Nov. 23. During that time only 1 horse has finished off the board (8 were 2nd and 5 were 3rd).


How is she still training?

1. Guess what? Barns get hot at times. For 2022 her overall winning percentage - 18% - matches the percentage she's achieved over her 36 year career - 18%. (She also has a relatively balanced number of wins, places, and shows in that 2022 record - *I* tend to be more suspicious of trainers whose percentatges are heavily skewed to the win end.)

2. If by this time, with all that's been published over the last year and a half about the suspension she'd been given in May 2021 being tied up in court, you are still unaware that it has to play itself out in legal channels before it can be enforced, I encourage you to become more informed. Here's the latest I've seen on it (there may be something more recent) - as of this 11/25 article we were waiting for the NYSGC to file its brief in response to the Rice brief filed in the appellate court on 11/16:

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...n-front-burner

3. Even with regard to the suspension she was given, *I* have never considered it in the same category as the Servis/Navarro type of suspension. It is true that the actions she is charged with were GROSSLY unfair to other trainers and owners. She gained an advantage in entering races because those others did not get to see what she saw with regard to the makeup of the race, and if true, deserves to be punished for that. However, once those races were drawn, we, as bettors, had a fair picture of the race based on what we all could see in the PPs. There was no longer any "hidden" advantage for the Rice entrants that would be present in a PED-type situation.

[Brisk Urging]

Originally Posted by BarchCapper

1. Guess what? Barns get hot at times. For 2022 her overall winning percentage - 18% - matches the percentage she's achieved over her 36 year career - 18%. (She also has a relatively balanced number of wins, places, and shows in that 2022 record - *I* tend to be more suspicious of trainers whose percentatges are heavily skewed to the win end.)

2. If by this time, with all that's been published over the last year and a half about the suspension she'd been given in May 2021 being tied up in court, you are still unaware that it has to play itself out in legal channels before it can be enforced, I encourage you to become more informed. Here's the latest I've seen on it (there may be something more recent) - as of this 11/25 article we were waiting for the NYSGC to file its brief in response to the Rice brief filed in the appellate court on 11/16:

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...n-front-burner

3. Even with regard to the suspension she was given, *I* have never considered it in the same category as the Servis/Navarro type of suspension. It is true that the actions she is charged with were GROSSLY unfair to other trainers and owners. She gained an advantage in entering races because those others did not get to see what she saw with regard to the makeup of the race, and if true, deserves to be punished for that. However, once those races were drawn, we, as bettors, had a fair picture of the race based on what we all could see in the PPs. There was no longer any "hidden" advantage for the Rice entrants that would be present in a PED-type situation.

Informed?/Heard the same thing about Servis and Navarro..

She was bribing officials paying people off.Everyone knew it turn the other way.

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by BarchCapper

1. Guess what? Barns get hot at times. For 2022 her overall winning percentage - 18% - matches the percentage she's achieved over her 36 year career - 18%. (She also has a relatively balanced number of wins, places, and shows in that 2022 record - *I* tend to be more suspicious of trainers whose percentatges are heavily skewed to the win end.)

I highly respect your rational fact-based approach to this.

Your stats somewhat palliate the reality. Her horses started running, and it's a significant thing where the pools are now accounting for it. They don't have to be star horses, but they are almost all 'live', and some are doing it up in class relative previous form.

There was a paper by Tversky & Gilovich at Cornell University where they disproved the 'hot hand' in basketball. Well, that may be mostly true as far as significance goes, and shooting tends to fit natural randomness as far as 'streaks' and consecutive wins or losses.

[affirmedny]

Many of her horses lately are winning off big drops. Maybe sort of a fire sale because she knows suspension is looming? Just a thought.

[BarchCapper]

Originally Posted by affirmedny

Many of her horses lately are winning off big drops. Maybe sort of a fire sale because she knows suspension is looming? Just a thought.

Do those become a way of closing out for year-end tax purposes? The IRS codes have changed a lot since we owned horses, so I don't know if as much of that still goes on or needs to go on.

[Robert Fischer]

warm holiday story.

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[PhantomOnTour]

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

warm holiday story.

https://twitter.com/jason_kassa/stat...76925245448199

https://twitter.com/jason_kassa/stat...03767667089408

Warm holiday story ?


Okay

[$w1fT]

Yep, a real good feeling underdog story…

[Tom]

And even better for her, STILL NO PENALTIES FOR CHEATING.

[affirmedny]

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[RunDustyRun]

Love the Linda Rice simpletons...all hay and oats for this most virtuous trainer..

[$w1fT]

So she’ll be gone for about 3 racing days. Another slap on the wrist.