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Old 09-22-2021, 12:31 PM   #1
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Officials Drug Tested

Reportedly, Within the last 48 hours every (thoroughbred) racing official in Ohio, save those off work and waiting for Mvr to open, has been drug tested.

Such a wide-sweeping and costly measure is , to my knowledge, unprecedented. I have worked 30 years as an official, my boss 40, and neither of us can recall a single coworker being tested.

Word has it that management at both Btp and Tdn consider this action illegal and will fight the commission to the death.

Stay tuned. This is going to get real.

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Reportedly, Within the last 48 hours every (thoroughbred) racing official in Ohio, save those off work and waiting for Mvr to open, has been drug tested.

Such a wide-sweeping and costly measure is , to my knowledge, unprecedented. I have worked 30 years as an official, my boss 40, and neither of us can recall a single coworker being tested.

Word has it that management at both Btp and Tdn consider this action illegal and will fight the commission to the death.

Stay tuned. This is going to get real.
Who knows what is in their contract but many, many (most?) businesses have drug testing clauses. It would seem racing officials should be drug tested to me, but it is horse racing so they probably aren't.
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Who knows what is in their contract but many, many (most?) businesses have drug testing clauses. It would seem racing officials should be drug tested to me, but it is horse racing so they probably aren't.
My sources know what's in the contract and consider it less than definitive in regards to the commission's sweeping actions. This will intensify.

I'm not a lawyer, and of course can't speak to the legal aspects.

I'll be surprised if this doesn't hit the Paulick Report.

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Old 09-22-2021, 01:03 PM   #4
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How is this even remotely close to a big story?
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How is this even remotely close to a big story?
No sale, Andy. And never again. We have been there and done this.
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No sale, Andy. And never again. We have been there and done this.
What does this even mean?

It was a valid question.

Andy gets ripped apart 10 ways to Sunday all over social media, but you're untouchable?

It was just a simple question.
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What does this even mean?

It was a valid question.
We will have to disagree on that, sir.

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https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclope...laws-ohio.html

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Ohio employers are authorized to drug test employees in a variety of circumstances, including:

following a workplace accident
based on reasonable suspicion, and
after an employee returns to work after a positive test.
Assuming the above website is correct...this doesn't seem all that unusual...
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How is this even remotely close to a big story?
it's huge to me as an official who is very close to some of those involved. And I thought some posters might find it interesting, even of note.

Be well, Andy.
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Apparently only some people can respond to some topics here according to some posters ( not most ).

I don't agree with that. I only regret ( very occasionally ) that I don't respond even more frequently
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https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclope...laws-ohio.html

Assuming the above website is correct...this doesn't seem all that unusual...
Mike, my boss and i have 70 years total experience as officials and have never seen a fellow official tested. That's really all I can contribute.
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Apparently only some people can respond to some topics here according to some posters ( not most ).

I don't agree with that. I only regret ( very occasionally ) that I don't respond even more frequently
I answered your post. Again, be well, Andy.
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it's huge to me as an official who is very close to some of those involved. And I thought some posters might find it interesting, even of note.

Be well, Andy.
Totally cool that it matters to you and some of your friends/co-workers. Makes perfect sense. This is true to all of us in some situations. However, I think it's fair to say you might have blown this one's significance out of proportion. That's really all Craig and I were saying.

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Totally cool that it matters to you and some of your friends/co-workers. Makes perfect sense. This is true to all of us in some situations. However, I think it's fair to say you might have blown this one's significance out of proportion. That's really all Craig and I were saying.

Our worlds are always more important to us than everyone else.
Andy, I blow EVERYTHING out of proportion.

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Pretty sure that Belterra requires pre-employment drug testing.

More importantly, if they have a racing license (and they do), racing officials are as eligible to be tested by the commission as any other licensees. Rarely happens, but I don't see any reason why it can't. I also can't see the managements "fighting this to the death." Testing those people seems ill-advised, but not illegal.
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