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07-18-2021, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by zico20
Why should he get a long suspension when he didn't have every available option open to him. Jockeys instinctively know to whip the horse left handed when they drift in, he didn't get the chance.
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Because he crossed over in front of a rival without sufficient clearance causing that horse to fall.
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07-18-2021, 02:07 PM
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07-18-2021, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
Because he crossed over in front of a rival without sufficient clearance causing that horse to fall.
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07-18-2021, 02:55 PM
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Could very well be the best thread ever here on PA. Super debate presented with respect. Well done!
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07-18-2021, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GMB@BP
The safety of your fellow riders should be paramount in your decision making, maybe he knew it was Lopez, who shall we say, could give a shit if he kills someone most of the time.
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You think Paco is still riding that way? I think he has gotten way better about safety than he used to be.
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07-18-2021, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
You think Paco is still riding that way? I think he has gotten way better about safety than he used to be.
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I have not watched him recently, how long has this been going on?
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07-18-2021, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GMB@BP
I have not watched him recently, how long has this been going on?
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I don't remember a specific time, maybe since Irad beat him up?
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07-18-2021, 05:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
I don't remember a specific time, maybe since Irad beat him up?
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 that was very short
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07-18-2021, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by alhattab
What is the “that” to which you refer?
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The notion that what Prat did had anything to do with the whip rule. He would have tried to move in no matter what the rule was.
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07-18-2021, 08:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
The notion that what Prat did had anything to do with the whip rule. He would have tried to move in no matter what the rule was.
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I agree. Sorry didn’t mean to suggest that Pratt’s actions would have been different. Was trying to answer and elaborate on Class’ question.
I watched the video again this eve and it does appear that Prat did shift his weight to bring Hot Rod in to Mandaloun.
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07-18-2021, 08:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
I have not watched him recently, how long has this been going on?
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07-19-2021, 09:18 AM
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07-19-2021, 10:07 AM
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Hard Luck Charlie can't catch a break. Mandaloun on the other hand, wins this by DQ and will probably win the Derby by DQ. amazing
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07-19-2021, 09:52 PM
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Its hard to see Paco riding as much right now because he has been everywhere. Park, Monmouth, today at Colonial Downs. He is a dirty rider and knowing he didn't have room to sneak through I feel he should have backed his horse up. Prat is a very good jockey and not one to try and play or ride dirty but mistakes happen. This is just my opinion on watching the race. It sucks for everyone involved in the race.
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07-19-2021, 09:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops McCann
Hard Luck Charlie can't catch a break. Mandaloun on the other hand, wins this by DQ and will probably win the Derby by DQ. amazing
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Double DQ winner Mandaloun.....Best 3 year old and Horse of the Year?
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