Revolutionary

[Leparoux]

Originally Posted by chadk66

the point system shot the industry in the foot. the amount of interest in the derby would double if she was in the race.

[chadk66]

Originally Posted by Leparoux

you don't agree with that? you would have a huge public buildup that would entice non fans of the sport to watch to see if the filly can beat the boys.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by chadk66

you don't agree with that? you would have a huge public buildup that would entice non fans of the sport to watch to see if the filly can beat the boys.

Huge? I doubt that...an added level of interest, yes...

[cj]

Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour

Maybe make the top 1 or 2 Oaks points earners eligible for the Derby???
I like the points system, but also believe it needs some tweaking.

So simple and perfect.

[depalma113]

Originally Posted by chadk66

you don't agree with that? you would have a huge public buildup that would entice non fans of the sport to watch to see if the filly can beat the boys.

It's the Kentucky Derby, it's like the Super Bowl, non fans will be watching regardless of any of the horses in the race.

[Tom]

More people tune in for the hats.
The race is incidental.

[chadk66]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Huge? I doubt that...an added level of interest, yes...

the definition of huge is in the eye of the beholder. I've been having the "huge" discussion with my wife since we got married 25 years ago. Her definition of huge is surely different than mine

[Valuist]

Originally Posted by chadk66

the definition of huge is in the eye of the beholder. I've been having the "huge" discussion with my wife since we got married 25 years ago. Her definition of huge is surely different than mine

Has this thread about Revolutionary turned into a thread about "Little Mike"?

[Leparoux]

Originally Posted by chadk66

the definition of huge is in the eye of the beholder. I've been having the "huge" discussion with my wife since we got married 25 years ago. Her definition of huge is surely different than mine

The definition is not subjective when you said that it would "double" the interest in the Derby. DOUBLE!?!?

[chadk66]

Originally Posted by Leparoux

The definition is not subjective when you said that it would "double" the interest in the Derby. DOUBLE!?!?

ok maybe double is a stretch. but it no doubt would bring more attention to the race.

[johnhannibalsmith]

Originally Posted by cj

So simple and perfect.

I think so too. It's not like it's a twelve horse gate. If you're the nineteenth best point earning male, so sorry Charlie if it makes room for the best filly to give it a go. But alas, the hardboots don't even like geldings in their stallion maker.

[Tread]

Originally Posted by cj

So simple and perfect.

Was this sarcasm? Dreaming of Julia might not even finish in the top 5 point earners, there are still several 100 point races left and she will not run again before the Oaks/Derby. So using the point system does not work at all if you are trying to get her in the Derby.

[jahura2]

Palice Malice was one of those in La. Derby that encountered all kinds of trouble. Questionable decisions by Prado, might not have won but should have gotten part of it. Definitely a consideration if he goes back in the
Bluegrass, but still not too much of a value being trained by Pletcher.

[cj]

Originally Posted by Tread

Was this sarcasm? Dreaming of Julia might not even finish in the top 5 point earners, there are still several 100 point races left and she will not run again before the Oaks/Derby. So using the point system does not work at all if you are trying to get her in the Derby.

Not sarcasm at all. If her connections don't run her enough to get her in the top 2, so be it. If that rule was in place they may have run her in different spots, no?

[Tread]

Originally Posted by cj

Not sarcasm at all. If her connections don't run her enough to get her in the top 2, so be it. If that rule was in place they may have run her in different spots, no?

I don't think so, her most recent race was a huge forward explosion and you wouldn't have been thinking Derby with her based on her prior efforts until this one happened.

The problem here is that "best" is a matter of opinion, not a matter of points. I don't think anyone will argue that her last race was not the best of any 3yr old filly this year, but if what you are trying to do is offer the "best" filly or 2 the ability to run in the Derby you can't do that because the points system is not meant to determine who the best top 1/2 horses are, it is more meant to determine who gets in spots 10-20. And I think what you will see in coming years is that the "best" horse in terms of those KY races frequently will not have the top point value.