Time to build the wall. No one can stop us.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

I heard on the radio here in Houston this morning that there is a plan being floated in the State Legislature to bring a law that would allow any border area type who wants to keep their land, to be able to keep it. The state of Texas would then move the border north of their land and cede them to Mexico.

Love it!!!

States can change the US borders? Who knew?

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by HalvOnHorseracing

It may not be as easy as you think. Most people probably don't realize (1) the government doesn't own most of the land that they expect to build the wall on, and (2) those people who do own the land and don't want to give it up have the ultimate hole card - the 5th Amendment of the Constitution.

I posted a link earlier in one of these threads showing that the Feds own 30% of the land that would be used for the Texas wall. The rest is owned by state and local governments, Indian reservations, and citizens. Acquiring that land could take years and costs a good chunk of that budget, if Trump ever gets it.

And anything Trump tries to do without Congressional approval is going to end up at SCOTUS.

[chadk66]

So you won’t be opposed to building the wall in the rest of the border until the rio grande issue is worked out. Something tells me it’s just an excuse for you.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by Clocker

States can change the US borders? Who knew?

I believe the legislature can change anything they want in Texas...........they would change the state border for sure.
Now how many court cases would that spawn?

[jk3521]

The GoFundMe/wall campaign is over..


https://www.businessinsider.com/gofu...draiser-2019-1

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by jk3521

The GoFundMe/wall campaign is over..


https://www.businessinsider.com/gofu...draiser-2019-1

The $ Billion was not reached and as promised funds will be returned. the $20 Million raised was still quite impressive.

[elysiantraveller]

Yes... raising approximately 0.2% of the required funds certainly demonstrates an overwhelming public support for the wall.

[jk3521]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Yes... raising approximately 0.2% of the required funds certainly demonstrates an overwhelming public support for the wall.

Most of the money was raised during the pre-Christmas period of time, people in the holiday giving mood . It never lasts. Either that or only 325 thousand or so people really give a damn if a wall is built or not!

[chadk66]

I read this morning where the GoFund me money just needs to be redirected to the charitable organization the guy that set up the gofundme account started. If they don't redirect it then it gets refunded. I would guess a bunch will be redirected. The fund gathering hasn't stopped just being done through a different medium.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by jk3521

Most of the money was raised during the pre-Christmas period of time, people in the holiday giving mood . It never lasts. Either that or only 325 thousand or so people really give a damn if a wall is built or not!

Yeah, when money is tight.
But read in ot it whatever makes you feel good.
That is all that really matters.

[jk3521]

Originally Posted by Tom

But read in ot it whatever makes you feel good.
That is all that really matters.

Personally, I'm not reading anything into it. It has been shown in the past that interest of the typical American in any cause wanes after a while and it's on to the next cause celebre. I also think that if Trump didn't make it such a big subject in his campaign, waited until he got in office and had someone introduce a bill to build such a wall , they would already have started work on it. Also, I partially blame Trump and his bombastic comments in general for hurting his chances of getting anything done. Why rile up your opposition? A wall is fine with me.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by jk3521

Personally, I'm not reading anything into it. It has been shown in the past that interest of the typical American in any cause wanes after a while and it's on to the next cause celebre. I also think that if Trump didn't make it such a big subject in his campaign, waited until he got in office and had someone introduce a bill to build such a wall , they would already have started work on it. Also, I partially blame Trump and his bombastic comments in general for hurting his chances of getting anything done. A wall is fine with me.

What?!?! Pragmatism? Political Savvy? Transactional Politics?

Take your nuanced position and...

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by chadk66

I read this morning where the GoFund me money just needs to be redirected to the charitable organization the guy that set up the gofundme account started. If they don't redirect it then it gets refunded. I would guess a bunch will be redirected. The fund gathering hasn't stopped just being done through a different medium.

Who's going to stop the guy from "redirecting" a lot of it into his own pocket?

Not that there is a lot of oversight into GOFUNDME projects...

[jk3521]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Who's going to stop the guy from "redirecting" a lot of it into his own pocket?

Not that there is a lot of oversight into GOFUNDME projects...

And what about Kolfage ?..
https://www.businessinsider.com/man-...eration-2019-1

You had to know they'd get something on him.

[chadk66]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Who's going to stop the guy from "redirecting" a lot of it into his own pocket?

Not that there is a lot of oversight into GOFUNDME projects...

because it's a 501C3 and the irs watches that shit like a hawk. especially conservative groups.