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Old 12-21-2018, 06:18 AM   #226
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Old 12-21-2018, 07:00 AM   #227
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Nope, and Trump did better than Bush and Obama In the mid terms
No.

He didn't. He lost the popular vote in the same 8-9% range with full employment and the greatest economy evah!

Something you consistently remind us of.
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Old 12-21-2018, 07:02 AM   #228
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SAY WHAT Elysian? Come again?
TIL 2 minutes or 1 session is actually 9 days of whipping votes.

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Old 12-21-2018, 08:01 AM   #229
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What Clocker posted..it may be unfair , but....

https://nypost.com/2018/12/20/border...llions-raised/

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Old 12-21-2018, 08:37 AM   #230
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The US issued over 70 million non-immigrant visas for tourists and for business purposes in 2017. Over 18 million of those were for Mexicans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_p...isa_statistics
That needs to end
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Old 12-21-2018, 08:43 AM   #231
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There will be a shutdown I think. At least that’s what mt wife is hearing. And those sources in govt have been right on every shutdown to date. Furlough paperwork is being done up
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Old 12-21-2018, 08:44 AM   #232
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Old 12-21-2018, 08:49 AM   #233
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yes, since we can't make Mexico pay for the wall, we can at least give them $10 billion to improve their roads for the Guatemala US freeway.
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Old 12-21-2018, 09:32 AM   #234
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TIL 2 minutes or 1 session is actually 9 days of whipping votes.
^^ obvious superior intellect at play
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Old 12-21-2018, 09:44 AM   #235
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Go back and get away from making up or finding numbers and actually discuss your position.

My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts.
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Old 12-21-2018, 10:08 AM   #236
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This is all bullshit.

No one cares about the short term economics, security concerns, crime, pressure on wages, strains on local law enforcement/schools/hospitals/communities, drug importation, or the people at the border themselves (including those trying to get in.

Republicans are looking for cheap labor.

Democrats want to change the demographics further.

The end result will be worse economic and social chaos and we will elect more dimwitted socialists and Marxists.
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Old 12-21-2018, 10:30 AM   #237
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No.

He didn't. He lost the popular vote in the same 8-9% range with full employment and the greatest economy evah!

Something you consistently remind us of.
Trump did not run in the midterms ... but the Rs gained seats in the Senate and Harry Reid showed how to stop Congress with control of the Senate.
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Old 12-21-2018, 10:31 AM   #238
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Trump did not run in the midterms ... but the Rs gained seats in the Senate and Harry Reid showed how to stop Congress with control of the Senate.
Keep moving the goalposts...
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Old 12-21-2018, 10:58 AM   #239
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It is not more efficient than actual people. Estimates are that at least 55% of illegals in this country enter legally and over-stay their visas. A fence ain't gonna stop them. Who is more likely to take a job that would have gone to an American, someone that came in legally, or someone that walked across the desert?

How much of the border has a wall now? How much more will $5 billion buy? Hint: the $1.6 billion the Dems are proposing will build zero new wall. And how much more wall will be build after Trump leaves office?
A wall is pretty efficient. The Great Wall of China worked very well for the Chinese for centuries.

Having said that, I'm not saying that "boots on the ground" or air patrols won't be necessary to police the wall. It doesn't have to be one or the other. Human eyes would complement the wall.
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^^^

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