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02-16-2019, 08:20 PM
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Anothertwistafate
interesting pedigree
ANOTHERTWISTAFATE (USA) dkb/br. C, 2016 {23-b} DP = 7-1-6-2-0 (16) DI = 2.20 CD = 0.81 - 2 Starts, 1 Wins, 0 Places, 0 Shows Career Earnings: $15,945
All Juddmonte farms breeding on the bottom. Round Table, Lycius, Nijinsky, Lyphard sprinkle the dam side of the pedigree
https://www.pedigreequery.com/anothertwistafate
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02-16-2019, 08:31 PM
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I own a piece of a First Defence mare that has Buckpasser on the bottom of her pedigree. She is due to throw her 2nd foal this spring.
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02-16-2019, 11:32 PM
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The El Camino winner is female family 23-b (I'll Have Another, Bodemeister, Mine That Bird, Lil E Tee, Winning Colors, Affirmed). Also a Buckpasser-x. He looked good winning but that is also a revelation of his competition. I look forward to seeing how this one goes on dirt against more formidable foes. He's already punched his ticket to the Preakness.
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02-17-2019, 11:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f2tornado
The El Camino winner is female family 23-b (I'll Have Another, Bodemeister, Mine That Bird, Lil E Tee, Winning Colors, Affirmed). Also a Buckpasser-x. He looked good winning but that is also a revelation of his competition. I look forward to seeing how this one goes on dirt against more formidable foes. He's already punched his ticket to the Preakness.
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how do I check this information on the mares I own? thanks
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02-17-2019, 12:02 PM
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94 speed fig fits w/all of the PREP races thus far
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02-17-2019, 03:12 PM
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They want 2 races before the Derby. Oaklawn seems to be the logical spot timing wise...
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02-20-2019, 01:32 PM
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I don't like Anothertwistafate's damside pedigree for dirt. It's filled with European runners.
One example is Nebraska Tornado, the half-sister to Anothertwistafate's dam Imprecation. She made every start except one on turf in Europe. Her final career start came in the 2004 Breeders' Cup Distaff, and she failed to hit the board.
Anothertwistafate's second dam Media Nox started her career in Europe, before coming to Santa Anita and winning the Buena Vista on turf in her final start.
This is a turf family.
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02-20-2019, 02:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
how do I check this information on the mares I own? thanks
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I like using this site to search pedigrees.
ANOTHERTWISTAFATE (USA) dkb/br. C, 2016 {23-b} DP = 7-1-6-2-0 (16) DI = 2.20 CD = 0.81
I bolded the female family in brackets. Family 1 (particularly 1-x) and 23-b have been quite successful in the Derby. Note last year's winner Justify is a 1-h. I've seen a number of solid horses with 17-b as well (think Gun Runner). Buckpasser-x horses (via a daughter of Buckpasser on dam side) posting fast closing fractions in the 9F preps have been astounding hitting the board. I'll credit Stanley Caris for discovering that tidbit. He's posted here in the past.
This makes the three most well bet future pool plays so tantalizing. All have Buckpasser-x. Game Winner and Hidden Scroll have the premier female families. Plus, the 2019 preps have been won by slow horses so far.
GAME WINNER (USA) b. C, 2016 {1-x} DP = 3-6-10-1-0 (20) DI = 2.33 CD = 0.55
HIDDEN SCROLL (USA) b. C, 2016 {23-b} DP = 5-7-14-0-0 (26) DI = 2.71 CD = 0.65
IMPROBABLE (USA) ch. C, 2016 {16-h} DP = 12-9-13-0-0 (34) DI = 4.23 CD = 0.97
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02-20-2019, 06:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f2tornado
I like using this site to search pedigrees.
ANOTHERTWISTAFATE (USA) dkb/br. C, 2016 {23-b} DP = 7-1-6-2-0 (16) DI = 2.20 CD = 0.81
I bolded the female family in brackets. Family 1 (particularly 1-x) and 23-b have been quite successful in the Derby. Note last year's winner Justify is a 1-h. I've seen a number of solid horses with 17-b as well (think Gun Runner). Buckpasser-x horses (via a daughter of Buckpasser on dam side) posting fast closing fractions in the 9F preps have been astounding hitting the board. I'll credit Stanley Caris for discovering that tidbit. He's posted here in the past.
This makes the three most well bet future pool plays so tantalizing. All have Buckpasser-x. Game Winner and Hidden Scroll have the premier female families. Plus, the 2019 preps have been won by slow horses so far.
GAME WINNER (USA) b. C, 2016 {1-x} DP = 3-6-10-1-0 (20) DI = 2.33 CD = 0.55
HIDDEN SCROLL (USA) b. C, 2016 {23-b} DP = 5-7-14-0-0 (26) DI = 2.71 CD = 0.65
IMPROBABLE (USA) ch. C, 2016 {16-h} DP = 12-9-13-0-0 (34) DI = 4.23 CD = 0.97
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thank you-I use pedigreequery but didn't know thats what the numbers in parentheses meant.
My mares are 9-f, 16, 9-f and 8-c
Last edited by Afleet; 02-20-2019 at 06:07 PM.
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02-21-2019, 02:52 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Is going to try dirt for next start, wasn't even nominated for the Jim Beam (whatever it is called this days! )
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02-22-2019, 06:29 PM
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Just Deplorable
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It's the Jeff Ruby Steaks.
But it will always be the Jim Beam to me.
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03-05-2019, 10:37 PM
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Registered User
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Jim Beam is easier to remember and easier to say than
The Jeff Ruby Steaks Stakes.
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04-07-2019, 09:25 AM
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How Cliche
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Just listened to an interview with Blaine Wright. His charge got bumped off the derby points list. Therefore he's decided to run him in the Lexington Stakes. His rider there will be Javier Castellano.
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04-07-2019, 02:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by how cliche
Just listened to an interview with Blaine Wright. His charge got bumped off the derby points list. Therefore he's decided to run him in the Lexington Stakes. His rider there will be Javier Castellano.
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dont like changing jocks-if it aint broke, don't fix it
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04-07-2019, 02:24 PM
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anothertossforme is more like it.
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